[Aztlan] Re: Diehl's papaer.

[Robert Evans]

The abstract is free, but to get the whole article you have to pay GBP15.

I'd love to read it, but that's CAD$30 in this neigborhood.

Cheers,

Robert Evans
revans at atoda.com
www.atoda.com

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<>From: aztlan-bounces at lists.famsi.org [mailto:aztlan-
<>bounces at lists.famsi.org] On Behalf Of Kolb, Charles
<>Sent: August 21, 2006 5:21 AM
<>To: Diehl, Richard; aztlan at lists.famsi.org
<>Subject: RE: [Aztlan] Re: Wheeled animal effigies
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<>This is the reference Dick mentioned:
<>
<>Antiquity Vol 61:232, 1987 pp 239-246 - Richard A. Diehl - Tula, and
<>wheeled animal effigies in Mesoamerica
<>Title: Tula, and wheeled animal effigies in Mesoamerica DC. Creator:
<>Diehl R
<>http://www.antiquity.ac.uk/ant/061/Ant0610239
<>HTML Abstract (free)
<>
<>Charlie Kolb
<>
<>-----Original Message-----
<>From: aztlan-bounces at lists.famsi.org
<>[mailto:aztlan-bounces at lists.famsi.org] On Behalf Of Diehl, Richard
<>Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 5:05 PM
<>To: aztlan at lists.famsi.org
<>Subject: [Aztlan] Re: Wheeled animal effigies
<>
<>I have been monitoring the discussion on wheeled animal figurines on a
<>sporadic basis and would just like to remind listeros that Margaret
<>Mandeville and I published a fairly complete survey of wheeled animal
<>effigies in Mesoamerica in the British journal Antiquity sometime during
<>the late 1980s. I am on the road at the moment and do not have the year
<>or citation at hand but I am certain that it can be found at the
<>Antiquity website. We found scores of them at Tula and they are NOT
<>toys.
<>
<>Saludos, y'all.
<>
<>Dick Diehl
<>
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<>Today's Topics:
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<>   1. Two Enigmatic Wheeled Figurines (DWirth8851 at aol.com)
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<>Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 12:59:30 EDT
<>From: DWirth8851 at aol.com
<>Subject: [Aztlan] Two Enigmatic Wheeled Figurines
<>To: AZTLAN at lists.famsi.org
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<>While on the subject of wheels, I was looking  through my file and came
<>across Gordon Ekholm's "Wheeled Toys in Mexico,"  American Antiquity,
<>Vol. XI, April 1946, pp.222-228. Plate xxvi has two  very strange
<>figurines with holes for wheels (wheels missing). One has a rider  (legs
<>there, but top portion
<>missing) on a saddle?? or at least a fillet for  support. The other is
<>an animal with a headdress, but has a bit and halter. I  located the
<>latter in another book, which also has a front view of the animal.  That
<>illustration is in Florence H. and Robert M. Pettit, Mexican Folk Toys:
<>Festival Decorations and Ritual Objects (New York, Hastings House
<>Publishers, 1978), p. 15.
<>
<>    In 1977 Dr. Ekholm answered my letter about the  figurine with the
<>rider, and he said: "[it] is from Oaxaca but has no exact  provenance.
<>It was obtained by Marshall Saville in about the year 1900, --
<>apparently purchased from a local collector. In my article I suggested
<>that it  might date to the time of the first Spaniards in Oaxaca --
<>because of the rider  -- but now I am not so sure of this. I have shown
<>it to Ignacio Bernal and other  experts on Oaxaca ceramics and they
<>agree that it looks like a pre-Columbian  object. But no one attempts to
<>place it in any particular ceramic period."
<>
<>The animal with the bit and halter is from Panuco, Mexico, a Huastec
<>site.
<>Once again, I've made illustrations and can send them to anyone who
<>requests them.
<>
<>Diane Wirth
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