[Aztlan] 13 Baktun Date

[John Major Jenkins]

To those involved in this thread and anyone interested in the end date /
correlation question:
 
Hi,
If you'd like a more detailed and definitive assessment of the
underlying factors in the debate between the two correlations that are
two days apart, see:
 
http://www.alignment2012.com/fap3.html
http://www.alignment2012.com/fap9.html
http://www.alignment2012.com/app5.htm
http://alignment2012.com/scheletoGardner.html
 
In a nutshell, the end date is December 21, 2012. The earlier
correlation that results in December 23, 2012 was corrected when
ethnographic material on the surviving 260-day calendar become available
in the 1930s and 40s. The logic is that the surviving day-count evinces
an unbroken continuity with the Classic Period count, and projecting the
surviving count forward to December of 2012 should result in 4 Ahau (or
the equivalent day-sign in the Quiche Maya language, 4 Hunahpu) falling
on the correct end date. Thus, a separate confirmation of which
correlation best fits is possible. The test results in 4 Ahau falling on
December 21, 2012. Thus the 584283 correlation is supported. The
arguments of Floyd Lounsbury, who revived the earlier Dec 23rd
correlation, have not withstood analysis. His date, however, although
erroneous, has great currency because his student Linda Schele repeated
it and used it her books. Michael Coe followed, and so on. The issue is
not considered relevant to many Mayanists. But for the sake of clarity,
the 584283 correlation (13.0.0.0.0 = December 21, 2012) remains by far
the most feasible of all correlations proposed, including Lounsbury's.
When confronted with the ethnographic evidence that put his correlation
two days out of line with the surviving day-count, he suggested that
there must have been a two-day shift sometime just before the conquest.
Other scholars have commented that this scenario of a coordinated
cross-country shift is almost impossible to imagine, but what this means
is that Lounsbury's correlation would have to be shifted back 2 days for
all post-conquest dates, resulting in the end date falling on December
21 anyway. So, from this vantage, there isn't even a debate, or a
practical difference: both point to December 21, 2012.
 
John Major Jenkins
http://Alignment2012.com <http://alignment2012.com/> 
 
 
       
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aztlan-bounces at lists.famsi.org
[mailto:aztlan-bounces at lists.famsi.org] On Behalf Of mario malo
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:54 AM
To: Aztlan
Subject: [Aztlan] 13 Baktun Date
 
Amigos:    I am setting a timer/clock for the end date of the 13 Baktun
cycle of the Mayan long count/great cycle, but i keep reading two dates.
Is it December 21 or the 23,  2012? please help, M.F. Malo
 __________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 
_______________________________________________
Aztlan mailing list
Aztlan at lists.famsi.org
http://www.famsi.org/mailman/listinfo/aztlan