[Aztlan] Mississippian Origins in Mexico?

[wolfhawk]

I am also interested in the indigenous populations of the southeast USA.

I have yet to see ANY real proof of a connection between southeastern 
indigenous groups and Mexico, Mesoamerica, or South America; although the 
idea has been suggested by a number of researchers [usually] based upon 
architectural similarities. I have examined much of this "evidence" and it 
appears to be architecturally-related to almost anywhere in the world - 
circles, squares, and other geometric shapes seem to be common in most 
ancient cultures.

I am not a professional, but this seems fairly obvious to me. I think some 
researchers want very much to find evidence for a pet theory that they are 
blinded to the obvious.

I think Archaeology could benefit greatly from CSI - Instead of using the 
scientific hypothesis and finding evidence to support that hypothesis, the 
evidence should tell the story.  wolfhawk

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Daniels" <Gary at lostworlds.org>
To: "Aztlan2" <aztlan at lists.famsi.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:24 PM
Subject: [Aztlan] Mississippian Origins in Mexico?


> Is anyone here familiar with Mexican geography? I'm trying to locate the
> origins of the Creek Indians, the first mississippians in the southeast 
> U.S.
> Their migration legend has some tantalizing clues that makes me think they
> have an origin in Mexico. Primarily, the myth mentions a mountain with red
> smoke that's actually fire. This sure sounds a lot like a volcano to
> me....and since there are no volcanos in the eastern U.S., I think it 
> would
> be difficult for a tribe to perfectly describe something they've never
> experienced.
>
> Below is an excerpt from the Creek Migration Legend. If the geographic 
> clues
> sound like a real place in Mexico, I'd love to hear about it:
>
> "They came to a thick, muddy, slimy river-- came there, camped there, 
> rested
> there, and stayed over night there. The next day they continued their
> journey and came, in one day, to a red, bloody river. They lived by this
> river, and ate of its fishes for two years; but there were low springs
> there; and it did not please them to remain. They went toward the end of
> this bloody river, and heard a noise as of thunder. They approached to see
> whence the noise came. At first they perceived a red smoke, and then a
> mountain which thundered; and on the mountain was a sound as of singing.
> They sent to see what this was; and it was a great fire which blazed 
> upward,
> and made this singing noise....They here met a people of three different
> Nations. They had taken and saved some of the fire from the mountain; and,
> at this place, they also obtained a knowledge of herbs and of many other
> things."
>
> The full text of the myth can be found here:
>
> http://www.wm.edu/linguistics/creek/gatschet/01Gatschet8-18.pdf
>
> So basically I'm looking for a volcano that's near two rivers...a
> muddy/slimy river and  a red "bloody" river. The "low springs" could be
> sulfur springs...which wouldn't be out of the ordinary near a volcano.
>
> Does this location sound familiar to anyone? Does this fit the description
> of the geography around El Popo?
>
> *************************
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