[Aztlan] Re: Mississippian origins and Mesoamerica

[Clifford T. Brown]

Dave Hixson is right about Gary's question.

I believe the Choctaw also have an origin myth about coming from the west,
although it seems less specific. It may have been collected by John Swanton,
but I don't have the reference at hand. Some of the other southeastern
groups (Caddo, Cherokee) may have similar stories that would be interesting
to compare.

Cliff

Clifford T. Brown
Assistant Professor
Florida Atlantic University
777 Glades Road
Boca Raton, FL 33431
(561) 297-3232
ctbrown at fau.edu

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of David Hixson
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 11:20 AM
To: aztlan at lists.famsi.org
Subject: Re: [Aztlan] Re: Mississippian origins and Mesoamerica

Dear Listeros,

I personally agree with Dr. Cliff Brown.  This topic
has been discussed at length on Aztlan.  Archives of
the Louisville Aztlan list (including extensive
discussions of the possible culture-contact between
the U.S. Southeast and Mesoamerica) are available at:

http://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/aztlan.html

And archives of the current FAMSI Aztlan list (with
limited discussion of the same topic) are available
at:

http://www.famsi.org/mailman/listinfo/aztlan

However, Gary's most recent question appears to be
new.  So, if anyone has any input to Gary's original
question about origin myths (regarding possible
geological landmarks), please contact him directly.

His email and original message are copied below:

------------------------------------------
"Gary Daniels" <Gary at lostworlds.org>

Below is an excerpt from the Creek Migration Legend.
If the geographic 
clues
sound like a real place in Mexico, I'd love to hear
about it:

"They came to a thick, muddy, slimy river-- came
there, camped there, 
rested
there, and stayed over night there. The next day they
continued their
journey and came, in one day, to a red, bloody river.
They lived by 
this
river, and ate of its fishes for two years; but there
were low springs
there; and it did not please them to remain. They went
toward the end 
of
this bloody river, and heard a noise as of thunder.
They approached to 
see
whence the noise came. At first they perceived a red
smoke, and then a
mountain which thundered; and on the mountain was a
sound as of 
singing.
They sent to see what this was; and it was a great
fire which blazed 
upward,
and made this singing noise....They here met a people
of three 
different
Nations. They had taken and saved some of the fire
from the mountain; 
and,
at this place, they also obtained a knowledge of herbs
and of many 
other
things."

The full text of the myth can be found here:

http://www.wm.edu/linguistics/creek/gatschet/01Gatschet8-18.pdf

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