[Aztlan] Question about arrows and arch

[micc2]

Dear Justin,

I am sure that my better prepared colleagues will reply to you with a 
better answer, BUT
the word for a spear thrower is pronounced A'-tlatl NOT atl-atl.   
Atl-atl means "water, water."
there is a glottal stop before the first A (Ah-tlatl)

I remember hearing a ranger at  the Mesa Verde National Park museum say 
the word, and suddenly I realized that the popular pronunciation
was way off the mark.

I hope this helps!



Justin Kerr wrote:
> Dear Rene,
> This is a negative reply.
> In searching the Maya Vase Database, I have not found any indications of the
> use of arrows or the suggestion that during the period that vases were
> painted, incised, or carved that "bows and arrows" were in use. The only
> "weapons of flight" that are observed is the use of either the blowgun or
> the atl-atl. 
> Here I may be a heretic, but the very early accounts of the use of the bow
> and arrow may be a product of imagination on the part of the Europeans who
> made assumptions that bows must be in use when shafts from atl-atls were
> flying about them. 
> In doing quick glance through the pages of various "maticula de tributos" of
> the Aztec times ones does not find any "bows or arrows" depicted.
> In Western Mexican art, Colima for example, there are depictions of the use
> of the sling, but again no arrows.
> If anyone has any images of the use of the "bow and arrow" in Mesoamerica, I
> would be happy to know about them.
> Justin Kerr
>
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> Subject: [Aztlan] Question about arrows and arch
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> Dear Listeros
>
> I will like to ask if is any one who can point me to some light about when
> the inhabitants of mesoamerica and specially Guatemala started the use of
> the arrow and archs? and if any study/information about the rock weels
> (known as "donas") that are so common in Guatemala?
>
> Thank you for any help
>
> Rene Sanchinelli
> www.posadabelen.com
> www.guatemalaweb.com
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