Hi again Listeros: Here's a URL of one of Jorge's Ixmiquilpan-mural photos showing a struggle between a "Chichimec" holding a bow and arrows, and an Otomi warrior emerging from a flower dressed in a jaguar skin, and armed with a maccuahuitl. Sam Edgerton http://lanfiles.williams.edu/~sedgerto/IXMIQ.jpg