[Aztlan] Response to Dea's Question

eschele at mail.utexas.edu eschele at mail.utexas.edu
Thu Aug 9 09:07:20 CDT 2007


Response to Dea's question:

Dea is asking which book of the Florentine Codex I quote from in my email below.
I am currently in Mexico and so I don't have access to the Codex volumes in my
library right now (the citation is from one of my papers), but I can say
off-hand that the version of the Codex that I am referring to was from one of
the the 13 volumes translated by Anderson and Dibble, which is considered by
scholars as the best English translation.

Elaine

Quoting "D. M. Urquidi" <deamayaspin at yahoo.com>:

>
> Folks;
>
> So with this following we have an enigma:
>
> > Pleiades. In Sahagun’s Florentine Codex
> > (1950-1982:143-144) the indigenous
> > informant writes about the Aztec New Fire Ceremony,
> > one that ends and begins
> > the 52-year calendar cycle.  Regarding the night sky
> > and its center, he writes,
> > “These are representations of the Pleiades which
> > mark the 5th cardinal point. At
> > the beginning of a period of 52 years, fire was
> > newly kindled when the Pleiades
> > were in the zenith at midnight.”
>
> If the Pleiades are important during the AztecNew FIre
> Ceremony and are in the zenith at midnight, where are
> the Cabrillas that rise at 3 am in the morning?
> Granted the three oclock time may be erroneous, but if
> Sahagun's wrote both, and the hours are different, why
> did he write so inaccuratelly.  And although you give
> the page numbers, which of the books of the Florentine
> is the 12 midnight mentioned and which chapter of the
> book. . .  assuming that the books are identified  in
> the Florientine as it is in my four volumes of text
> only.
>
> As for the Madrid, if it all starts at page 112 and
> ends at page 1 (all the figures that span various
> pages are moving to the left next page, not to the
> right next page), how accurate is the calendar that is
> found there. And that includes the four serpent
> versions with day names.
>
> Dea
>
>
> D. M. Urquidi
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