[Aztlan] RE: reversed glyphs
Jeff Chouinard
kankawil at rcn.com
Fri Aug 17 13:16:51 CDT 2007
I seem to remember that the La Mojarra Stela has reversed glyphs. One side
(left?) seems right-reading, while on the other side (right?) the glyphs are
"flopped," mirror-image style. The writing has been called "Epi-Olmec," and
(as far as I know) has not yet been translated to the satisfaction of all.
Linda Schele would tell the "gods seeing through stone" story about the
backwards inscriptions on the top of Temple 11 at Copan.
Cheers,
Jeff Chouinard
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1. mirrors, reversed glyphs, and liminal space? (Helen R. Haines)
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Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:27:42 -0400
From: "Helen R. Haines" <hrhaines at ca.inter.net>
Subject: [Aztlan] mirrors, reversed glyphs, and liminal space?
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Hey Cameron
I am thinking you may be on to something - both in the how and why reversed
glyphs might have been viewed.
If you take into account that mirrors were used for divination/scrying
purposes maybe the idea of seeing a reversed image right-way-round in a
mirror has something to do with accessing the supernatural realm through
visions? Couple that to the idea that temple interiors may have served as
liminal spaces between the two worlds (sacred/profane)and you really start
to blur the line between which realm the person viewing the images was meant
to be considered in - not to mention how temple interiors may have been
symbolized.
Hmmm, now you have me thinking . . .
Cheers,
Helen
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Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 09:11:30 -0400
From: Cameron Griffith <casgriff at indiana.edu>
Subject: [Aztlan] re: reversed glyphs
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Listeros,
Is it possible that the reversed glyphs in the Lintel 25 case were
meant to be viewed with a pyrite mirror, by someone standing
comfortably in the entrance chamber of Temple 23? Could this be the
case for other instances of reversed glyphs?
> Listeros: The most well known, if not the most unusual example of
> "reversed glyphs" on Classic Maya monuments is of course the
inscription
> running across the top of Lintel 25, the centermost of the three
adjoining
> lintels once above the entrance to Temple 23, Yaxchilan. It has
often been
> argued that the reason for this peculiar presentation was that it was
> intended to be read from straight above; that is, by divine eyes
in the sky
> who presumably could see through stone.
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Cameron S. Griffith
Department of Anthropology
Indiana University
Student Building 130
701 E. Kirkwood Avenue
Bloomington, Indiana 47405-7100
USA
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Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:07:54 -0600
From: Guateweb - Posada Belen <mail at guatemalaweb.net>
Subject: [Aztlan] More on The New Site A in Izabal, Guatemala
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Dear Listeros
This is another link to new info on the new site dicovered in Guatemala (in
Spanish), searching for the lost port of NITO
http://www.sigloxxi.com/index.php?link=noticias¬iciaid=13526
Enjoy it
Rene Sanchinelli
www.posadabelen.com
www.guatemaya.com
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Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:04:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Webmaster" <webmaster at chicanoforums.com>
Subject: [Aztlan] 21 Days in Tenochtitlan
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Here are some (rough) images of my stay here in Tenochtitlan.
http://www.chicanoforums.com/forums/index.php?automodule=gallery&req=user&us
er=2&op=view_album&album=51
20 images in all.
Un Saludo,
Daniel
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