[Aztlan] Aztlan Digest, Vol 25, Issue 17

[Barb MacLeod]

I did a quick review of the posts featuring 2012 per Dave's suggestion, and 
would recommend that anyone wanting the scoop on 2012 do the same. The 
point-counterpoint between John Major Jenkins and Lloyd Anderson is very 
useful vis-a-vis the astronomy, and Christian Prager's and Dave Stuart's 
input on Bolon Yokte' and Tortuguero 6 is also extremely pertinent.

Shouldn't we be asking--or speculating merrily--about why this deity is so 
important to the 13.0.0.0.0 period ending? If he's about to 'descend' then 
where is he now, and where's he gonna descend to? Shouldn't we be more 
attentive to what happened the last time? Howzabout an on-list review of the 
text of the Vase of the Seven Gods? Why is the verb tzak-aj 'line up'/count 
present? Who are all those gods, and what's God L's role in this brouhaha? 
And then, what about the various creation texts on the stone monuments which 
reference the changing of the hearth at the bak'tun ending? What's that 
about, and is it a forerunner of the Wayeb rituals described by Landa (toss 
the old crockery and hearthstones and get new ones)? What about Quirigua 
Stela C? Who are those gods, really, and what are they up to?

It seems to me that if we are really concerned with what the ancient Maya 
expected to happen in 2012, we ought to be attempting to correlate the 
various 4 Ajaw 8 Kumk'u events and make some sense of it all. Aztlan seems 
the perfect venue. Now, as the winter solstice and the new year approach and 
we are poised to enter the final jo'tun of the great cycle--seems the 
perfect time.


Barb MacLeod


----- Original Message ----- 

--- Henry Avila <hwavila at tutopia.com> wrote:

> Somebody asked me a question about the already
> popular 2012 maya
> predictions, and I would like to know if somebody
> knows scientific
> information that could refute all the misconception
> about the maya
> profecies.