[Aztlan] Aztlan Digest, Vol 25, Issue 17

[Harold H. Green]

Many of the pertinent questions posed by Barb were the subject of the
excellent 12th European Maya Conference, held in Geneva on December
3-8, 2007: "The Maya and Their Sacred Narratives: Text and Context of
Maya Mythologies" (with two workshops and a number of papers presented
at the Symposium focused on creation texts).

Additional information about the workshop leaders and their programs,  
and
about the Symposium participants and their paper abstracts can be  
found at
www.wayeb.org.

While papers presented at the 12th EMC probably won't be published  
for a couple
of years (still well before 2012!), perhaps some of the speakers and/ 
or workshop
leaders or participants at that fine meeting could add comment here  
in response
to Barb's questions.

Hal Green


On Dec 19, 2007, at 2:44 PM, Barb MacLeod wrote:

> I did a quick review of the posts featuring 2012 per Dave's  
> suggestion, and
> would recommend that anyone wanting the scoop on 2012 do the same. The
> point-counterpoint between John Major Jenkins and Lloyd Anderson is  
> very
> useful vis-a-vis the astronomy, and Christian Prager's and Dave  
> Stuart's
> input on Bolon Yokte' and Tortuguero 6 is also extremely pertinent.
>
> Shouldn't we be asking--or speculating merrily--about why this  
> deity is so
> important to the 13.0.0.0.0 period ending? If he's about to  
> 'descend' then
> where is he now, and where's he gonna descend to? Shouldn't we be more
> attentive to what happened the last time? Howzabout an on-list  
> review of the
> text of the Vase of the Seven Gods? Why is the verb tzak-aj 'line  
> up'/count
> present? Who are all those gods, and what's God L's role in this  
> brouhaha?
> And then, what about the various creation texts on the stone  
> monuments which
> reference the changing of the hearth at the bak'tun ending? What's  
> that
> about, and is it a forerunner of the Wayeb rituals described by  
> Landa (toss
> the old crockery and hearthstones and get new ones)? What about  
> Quirigua
> Stela C? Who are those gods, really, and what are they up to?
>
> It seems to me that if we are really concerned with what the  
> ancient Maya
> expected to happen in 2012, we ought to be attempting to correlate the
> various 4 Ajaw 8 Kumk'u events and make some sense of it all.  
> Aztlan seems
> the perfect venue. Now, as the winter solstice and the new year  
> approach and
> we are poised to enter the final jo'tun of the great cycle--seems the
> perfect time.
>
>
> Barb MacLeod
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> --- Henry Avila <hwavila at tutopia.com> wrote:
>
>> Somebody asked me a question about the already
>> popular 2012 maya
>> predictions, and I would like to know if somebody
>> knows scientific
>> information that could refute all the misconception
>> about the maya
>> profecies.
>
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