[Aztlan] Name for Fer-de-lance

[Henry Avila]

Thanks Nick for that great explanation, i must add that in the book "El
mundo del misterio verde" (The world of the green mistery) the author
metions "icbolay" as maya-kekchi name for the "yellow mouth" serpent
(Nauyaca).


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nick Hopkins" <nhopkins en mailer.fsu.edu>
To: "Aztlan" <aztlan en lists.famsi.org>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Aztlan] Name for Fer-de-lance


Where did you get the information that this is a term for bushmaster
(fer-de-lance)? The Cordemex dictionary of Yucatec Maya says that
"bolay" is a generic term for fierce and deadly animals, including
jaguars, foxes, etc. (they don't mention snakes).   However, if the
term is "ik' bolay" it's probably not Yucatec but likely to be
Cholan, where /'ik'/ is 'black' and /b'o'lay/ is a term for 'jaguar';
in fact, the phrase /'ik' bo'lay/ is glossed in the Aulie and Aulie
dictionary of Chol as "tigre frijolillo," whatever cat that is.  The
Chol for fer-de-lance or "nauyaca" (Bothrops asper) is /k'än choj/
"yellow cheek," sometimes /k'än ti'/ "yellow mouth" (whence the
regional Spanish term "cantil") and the "nauyaca
saltadora" (Porthidium nummifer) is /xb'uk'tzu'/ (?).

Nick Hopkins


On Feb 12, 2007, at 9:26 AM, Mike McBride wrote:

> One of the Maya names for the Fer-de-lance is Ik'
> Bolay.  Is this Quiche' Maya?
> Is there a direct translation to the term?
> i.e., Ik' (Black or Star?) Bolay ??
>
> Thanks,
> Mike

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