[Aztlan] Zoomorphic Illustrations Tortoise

[D. M. Urquidi]

lahunik and folks in general:

I was beginning to think I had so many friends that no
one would embarrass me by correcting me.

The information below is the best I have seen so far
and it ties in to Thompson's original idea that the
Turtle "goddess" was connected to the Itzamma Ye, the
original Iguana "god" as sky elements.

The Dresden information is to be used in my present
endeavor with permission, thank you.

I can find the concepts that connect to each other,
but not always the acceptable connectors that make
them real. The story elements are drawn and written
into tradition from all of Mesoamerican lore. However,
they are in small insignificant pieces that usually
mean nothing by themselves. The computer "helps" to
tie them together, but it is a long, hard process.

Dea
 
> Cfr.: D.M.Urquidi:"The significance seems to be
> found in the Paris and
> Madrid Codex. Both show the turtle as a star
> concept".
> 
> Referring to the Madrid Codex:
> 
> 1.        Pag.M.10a-13a, comparable to the Dresden
> pag.38b-41b, is an
> agrarian calendar which records dry and rainy
> periods, during 520 days or 2
> Tzolkincycles.
> 
> Pag.13a Frame 2 shows a turtle in a descending
> position in the rain. It is
> the beginning of an interval of 17 days. From the
> supporting glyphic is only
> T544 visible, the K'in glyph. That is a possible
> reference to a solar
> eclipse.
> 
> 2.        Pag.M.12b-18b, is an extensor calendar.
> 
> On pag.17 a turtle marks the beginning of the last
> Half Year, with the
> reference of 4 Etznab 0 Yax, pictured in the rain.
> The supporting glyphic
> text indicates a Half year of abundance. It is also
> the moment of
> respectively the 5th (926 September 16) and 3rd (925
> October 27) eclipse. 
> 
> 3.        Pag.M.17a Frame 2
> 
> Here a blue turtle is depicted with his legs wide
> open. Here he is used as a
> sign.
> 
> By the 1st and 3rd interval he is the sign of death.
> By the 2nd interval he
> is the heavenly sign of Itzamna. By the last
> interval he is royal heir to
> the throne.
> 
> Lahunik.62 
> 
> Baert Georges
> 
> Flanders Fields
> 
>  
> 
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D. M. Urquidi
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  Austin, Texas 78765
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