[Aztlan] exact location of Aztlan

martha noyes marthanoyes at hawaii.rr.com
Fri Jul 27 22:52:54 CDT 2007


This in response to Robert Hall's post:

First, thanks - I needed that.  I've been working with two Kane (roughly speaking the god of the sun) religion myths of Hawaii and been troubled by the switching of two locations I know to be celestial - one at the intersection of the Milky Way and the ecliptic at the June solstice, the other the intersection of the Milky Way and the ecliptic at the December solstice.  Your comments reminded me to take places (and characters and . . .) in at least two ways at the same time.  Smack - I shoulda had a V-8.  

Second, my experience with native myth tells me the sky is a very big place and it's awfully easy to lose your way in the heavens when you're looking at the ground.  Places on the ground represent (sometimes) places in the sky and places in the sky sometimes get their names changed, for instance the Big Dipper in Hawaii is usually called Na Hiku - the Seven - but sometimes that name is applied to the Pleiades and sometimes the stars of the Big Dipper are named individually, each one named after a famous 16th to 19th Century chief, and the only way I know of to distinguish when a name means one thing and not another is to recognize its context.

By the way, there were dog soldiers here, too - a special class of warriors trained in martial arts, with oathed allegiance to a chief, and part of a secret society that had lengthy "dog" ceremony initiations.

Thanks.


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