FW: [Aztlan] Enemas, etc.

[Rodrigo]

>Mayas don't seem to seek ecstatic experiences, quite the contrary.

And what about the Mayan mushroom carved stones that have been found? Aren't
these maybe be indicative of some type of mushroom cult among the Mayas? 
It seems like there is a significant number of these mushroom stones found.

Here are some examples:

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/life13.gif

http://exchanges.state.gov/culprop/guatemal/sect10.htm


>But the psilocybin mushrooms around Palenque grow  
>on cattle dung, and that was scarce in precolumbian times, and  
>besides, it's only the foreigners who come to use them.

The mushrooms you are referring to are specifically Psilocybe cubensis,
which usually grow on cattle dung but will also grow on the dung of other
herbivores. However I once saw one of these mushrooms in Veracruz growing in
a pile of wet decaying grass as well. But yeah since all the rainforest is
been replaced by cattle grazing fields these mushrooms can be found pretty
much everywhere in the wet south of Mexico. However that does not mean that
in pre hispanic times those mushrooms were scarce or hard to find. Besides
there are many more species of psilocybe mushrooms, not just the psilocybe
cubensis.

And it is not true that only foreigners consume those mushrooms. I read
somewhere that ritual use of the Psilocybe cubensis mushroom has been
documented among the Chol and Lacandon Mayas.

PS Jules S. is correct, there is also the hallucinogenic seeds of the
Ololuiqui (morning glory flower) which is a seasonal vine very common in the
south of Mexico with many different sub species. 


Rodrigo