[Aztlan] Ballgame questions

[D. M. Urquidi]

 Listeros:

In the Nutttall Codex, there are THREE instances where
the ballcourt is surrounded by star glyphs.  p. 15
bottom left, star forms; p. 19: star forms different
colors, but not half red, half white; and p 18 Left
Middle, star forms different colors, but not half red,
half white; 

The sequence appears in the first 20 pages that
contain the creation myths and star information.   

One can assume that the first instance is when the
"square nosed beastie" ate up a Mixtec constellation
that was outlined as the 'ball court" but is unknown
to our astronomers for lack of information. It
probably took a few days, months, or years to do it.
It also was probably an event worth remembering and
the formation was duplicated on the earth. 

The ball (the larger version) was maybe a ball of fire
that the two comet dragons fought over (Quetzalcoatl
and Xolotl) or Nanahuatzin. . .Tecuiçiztecatl  or
Hunahpu and Xbalenque before they became ermanent
stars in the sky.)

Dea

>   I have been researching the Mesoamerican ballgame
> and I have 2 questions that don't seem to be
> directly addressed by published research.
>    
>   -> What is the purpose of the "wings" (to coin a
> word) in the I-shaped ballcourt endzones?  It's hard
> to envision a situatiformsn where the ball would
enter
> the wings of the end-zone -- and if it did, it would
> seem unlikely the defending team would be able to
> return it.  And yet it seems that most Classic era
> ballcourts featured these wings.
>    
>   -> Based on the huge size of the balls in some
> Maya works (e.g. Kerr's fine oft-reprinted photo of
> the Dallas vase), some authors (e.g. Heather Orr)
> state that "some scholars propose . . . " that these
> balls really were that large but were hollow.  It
> seems instead that most researchers consider such
> images to be an "exaggeration" (to quote M Coe). 
> Has any serious researcher ever seriously suggested
> (as opposed to "wondering" or "speculating") that
> the Maya used large hollow balls on occasion??
>    
>   Thanks in advance for any help,
>   Craig Fisher
> 
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D. M. Urquidi
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