[Aztlan] Fw: El Salvador - Nahuas

[Larry Poulsen]

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From: "Larry Poulsen" <poulsen at mail.utexas.edu>
To: "Heather Hess" <heatherhess at hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Aztlan] El Salvador - Nahuas


> Nahua in Mesoamerica in 3000 BC? You state citation needed. Do you have 
> any data to substantiate this claim. I am very interested in the origin of 
> the Nahatl language. The Aztec legends imply that the Aztecs were 
> returning from the north rather than coming south for the first time. I 
> have read that the Uto-nahuatl language originated in Utah-Arizona but if 
> the Aztecs were returning and spoke nahuatl was this their original 
> language or were their ancestors responsible for carrying the language 
> north from a mesoamerican cultural origin?
>
> Larry P
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Heather Hess" <heatherhess at hotmail.com>
> To: <aztlan at lists.famsi.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:58 AM
> Subject: [Aztlan] El Salvador - Nahuas
>
>
>>
>> The prehistoric and modern Pipil are from at least three separate 
>> cultural and language groups that were loosely joined by conquest and 
>> later by culture [citation needed]. The earliest, a subgroup of a nomadic 
>> people known as the Nahua, migrated into Central America about 3000 B.C. 
>> [citation needed] The Nahua later came under the influence of Maya 
>> culture, perhaps through immigration and conquest. Ruins of limestone 
>> pyramids built by the Maya between A.D. 100 and 1000 are found in western 
>> El Salvador. Maya culture and language dominated this area of Mesoamerica 
>> until the ninth century A.D. Nahua/Maya civilization did not achieve the 
>> complexity found in the Maya heartland in Mexico and Guatemala, but 
>> appears to have been vital on a smaller scale [citation needed].> Date: 
>> Tue, 2 Oct 2007 07:59:09 -0400> From: nhopkins at mailer.fsu.edu> To: 
>> aztlan at lists.famsi.org> Subject: [Aztlan] Achiote> > Two comments: First, 
>> the quote says it's CAL (i.e., lime), not > achiote, that's used to!
>>  kick up the coca, like it's used in Chiapas > with the tobacco that is 
>> chewed. It helps release the alcaloids. > Second, achiote is used as a 
>> pigment, as the quote says, and it is also > used as a body pigment, 
>> which (IMHO) is why we have RED INDIANS; the > Caribbean Indians were 
>> using it as a body paint; it's also said to be > an insect repellent.> > 
>> Nick Hopkins> 
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