[Aztlan] Fw: El Salvador - Nahuas

Miguel Covarrubias migcov at gmail.com
Tue Oct 9 17:27:36 CDT 2007


According to Wlliam Fowler (1989:95) Pipil migration begun in 800 A.D. and
established in El Salvador until 900 A.D.

Fowler, William R.
  1989  "Nuevas perspecivas sobre las migraciones de los pipiles y nicaraos"
            Revista de la Dirección de Arqueología del Instituto Nacional de
Antropología e Historia,
            Segunda Epoca, No.1:89-98.
            INAH, Mexico.


2007/10/9, Larry Poulsen <poulsen at mail.utexas.edu>:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Poulsen" <poulsen at mail.utexas.edu>
> To: "Heather Hess" <heatherhess at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 3:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Aztlan] El Salvador - Nahuas
>
>
> > Nahua in Mesoamerica in 3000 BC? You state citation needed. Do you have
> > any data to substantiate this claim. I am very interested in the origin
> of
> > the Nahatl language. The Aztec legends imply that the Aztecs were
> > returning from the north rather than coming south for the first time. I
> > have read that the Uto-nahuatl language originated in Utah-Arizona but
> if
> > the Aztecs were returning and spoke nahuatl was this their original
> > language or were their ancestors responsible for carrying the language
> > north from a mesoamerican cultural origin?
> >
> > Larry P
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Heather Hess" <heatherhess at hotmail.com>
> > To: <aztlan at lists.famsi.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:58 AM
> > Subject: [Aztlan] El Salvador - Nahuas
> >
> >
> >>
> >> The prehistoric and modern Pipil are from at least three separate
> >> cultural and language groups that were loosely joined by conquest and
> >> later by culture [citation needed]. The earliest, a subgroup of a
> nomadic
> >> people known as the Nahua, migrated into Central America about 3000 B.C
> .
> >> [citation needed] The Nahua later came under the influence of Maya
> >> culture, perhaps through immigration and conquest. Ruins of limestone
> >> pyramids built by the Maya between A.D. 100 and 1000 are found in
> western
> >> El Salvador. Maya culture and language dominated this area of
> Mesoamerica
> >> until the ninth century A.D. Nahua/Maya civilization did not achieve
> the
> >> complexity found in the Maya heartland in Mexico and Guatemala, but
> >> appears to have been vital on a smaller scale [citation needed].> Date:
> >> Tue, 2 Oct 2007 07:59:09 -0400> From: nhopkins at mailer.fsu.edu> To:
> >> aztlan at lists.famsi.org> Subject: [Aztlan] Achiote> > Two comments:
> First,
> >> the quote says it's CAL (i.e., lime), not > achiote, that's used to!
> >>  kick up the coca, like it's used in Chiapas > with the tobacco that is
> >> chewed. It helps release the alcaloids. > Second, achiote is used as a
> >> pigment, as the quote says, and it is also > used as a body pigment,
> >> which (IMHO) is why we have RED INDIANS; the > Caribbean Indians were
> >> using it as a body paint; it's also said to be > an insect repellent.>
> >
> >> Nick Hopkins>
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