[Aztlan] el salvador - nahuas

Arnd Sölling arnibionic at yahoo.de
Wed Oct 10 10:15:21 CDT 2007


  Concerning the date of possible nahua-arrivals in central america i like the idea of using the huehuetiliztli's (edades) like Campbell & Langacker did:



"As for Pipil, though it is quite similar lexically and phonologically to other General Aztec (languages), there are grammatical differences of some differences. Glottochronology (for whatever it may be worth) suggests a time depth of fifteen minimum centuries (or ca A.D. 500) for Proto-Aztecan, with Pochutec splitting off first. General Aztec has a time depth of eleven minimum centuries (ca. A.D. 800), when Pipil split off (...). (...) The Pipil were scattered in pockets throughout Central America. Central to the ethnohistorical reconstruction is the Nicarao (Pipil of Nicaragua) statement that the migration to Central America took place seven to eight ‘edades’ or ‘vidas de viejo’ before. This is generally interpreted as the period called ‘huehuetiliztli’ of 104 years (two fifty-two-year cycles), giving roughly A.D. 800 (...). As the reconstructions have it, the Pipils left Cholula (in Puebla, Mexico) to escape the tyranny of the historical Olmecs; they came to be in
 Veracruz in the cultural province of Cerro de las Mesas and Los Tuxtla briefly, but were again displaced, going to establish themselves in Xolotlan (the Soconusco coast of Chiapas). However, to escape historical Olmec oppression once again, they left Soconusco, and passed through Guatemala and El Salvador, leaving settlements as far as Nicaragua, Costa  Rica, and Panama. This ties in well with dialect information, since Pipil shares several similarities with Gulf coast Nahua (...). This being the case, it would be surprising if Pipil were not a separate language. Perhaps the surprising thing is the degree of similarity still existing after so many years of separation (Campbell & Langacker 1978a:87)."
  - Campbell, Lyle & Langacker Ronald W. 1978a: Proto-Aztecan Vowels: Part I; 
                     International Journal of American Linguistics, vol. 44: 85-102; 
                     University of Chicago, Chicago

I can remember reading somewhere that the Pipil Language appeared to the Aztecs as a "crude" and "corrupted" version of their language...


  
       
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