[Aztlan] Aztlan

[Henry Avila]

If Aztlan was an imaginary place, this were not even known by the Aztecs,
and proof of that is, that the emperor himself Moctezuma II (correct me if
Im wrong) sent an expedition to locate such place.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jorge Pérez de Lara" <jorgepl en estudioelias.com>
To: "Aztlan" <aztlan en lists.famsi.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:59 PM
Subject: [Aztlan] Aztlan


> Daniel,
>
> If I may, I would like to volunteer (partial) answers for your last two
> questions:
>
> I don't think any academic research team (university-affiliated or
> otherwise) is "undertaking the task of locating Aztlan" mainly because
> Aztlan isn't believed to have ever existed in a fully physical sense.
> That is, Aztlan is a point of departure, a place of origin for the
> peoples who see themselves as "coming from Aztlan" (i.e, Aztecs). In
> that sense, while migrating peoples certainly set out from actual
> places, by the time their migration stories evolve, a lot of actual
> places (including the place of origin) have been unseparably mixed with
> what we like calling "mythology." Aztlan may have even had cosmological
> connections, much in the manner of other peoples who claim their
> ancestors "came from the stars," "from under the the Earth, sea" etc.
>
> As an answer to your last question, because of the half-mythological
> identity of Aztlan, I don't think it can really disappear, because it
> never fully existed in the physical plane. As for its "disappearing
> like the Maya," I think it is important to differentiate between
> cultural collapse (which is what went on with the Late Classic Maya)
> and disappearance. In that sense, the so-called Maya collapse probably
> entailed  a severe population drop as a result of reasons still to be
> fully understood, but the Maya never disappeared in the way popular
> media would have it. They, in fact, have never stopped to inhabit their
> ancestral lands.
>
> My two cacao beans.
>
> Jorge
>
>
> On Oct 18, 2007, at 12:53 PM, Webmaster wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have found these two maps online:
> >
> > Tanner's 1822 map &
> > 1847 Disturnell Map
> >
> > Both make reference to the home of the Aztecs.
> >
> > Does anyone have any additional information on these maps?
> > Does anyone want to comment on them?
> > Are there / is there ANYONE looking for the origin of the Mexicas?
> > Are all these maps in private collections?
> > Are there any in universities?
> > Are there any Universities currently undertaking the task of locating
> > Aztlan?
> >
> > Did Aztlan mysteriously disappear like the Maya?
> >
> > Thanks in Advance,
> >
> > Daniel
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