[Aztlan] Fith Sun

[Marcos Villaseñor]

On Sep 9, 2007, at 5:38 AM, <lahunik.62 at skynet.be> <lahunik. 
62 at skynet.be> wrote:

> We are living now in the 5th Sun, or Nahui Ollin, or 4 Movement.

How do we know that the Fifth Sun didn't end already?
>
> This 5th Sun is created in Teotihuacan.

By the early Teotiwakans around 200 BCE? or by the later Toltek  
around 300 CE?
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> The Sun and the population of the earth had been generated five times.
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> Humankind having been made in this 5th and last creation.
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> The five Suns are in connection with the bundles of 52 years, the  
> cycles of
> 52yearsX100, the  5 cycles of 5200 years, or 26000 years, or a full
> precession cycle.

Precession cycle is 25727 years, the 26000 year estimate is off by  
almost 4º, which is way too much for people who are regarded as great  
astronomers with very precise calculations. Could the 26000 year  
cycle be something else?
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> The cycle is shown in the Aztec Sundisk and in the Codex Rios from
> Tenochtitlan.

The Sun stone shows a Venus-solar calendar, how do we assume it's a  
precession calculation?
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> The correlation with the Gregorian calendar is due to Alfonso Casa  
> (Los
> Calendarion Prehispanic, Mexico, Unam 1967).
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> An anchor for this correlation is the recorded date of August 13  
> 1521 A.D,
> the fall of the city of Tenochtitlan.

Indeed correlations for the Aztec Calendar must show a coincidence of  
both dates Aztec and Proleptic Gregorian.
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> Nahui Ollin, 4 Movement or 3113 B.C.

If the Fifth sun started in Teotiwakan, why the assumption that its  
the same as the begining Olmec Long Count, which started at Izapa?  A  
note on the 3113 BCE date: It is a common mistake to use 3113 BCE  
instead of 3114 BCE due to the fact that there is no year "0" in the  
Gregorian calendar.  The correct date is 3114 BCE.

So does anyone really have an actual date for the begining of the  
Fifth Sun?

Many thanks,

Marcos
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