[Aztlan] Maya Blue

Mon Sep 10 07:15:04 CDT 2007

 An interesting paper on this topic has just been published in the
Journal of Raman Spectroscopy with the title "Raman and Infrared Studies
of Synthetic Maya Pigment as a Funtion of Heating Time and Dye
Concentrataion" Please contact me should you wish any additional
information

W.J. Hurst
The Hershey Company
whurst at hersheys.com

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Today's Topics:

   1. MIKE RUGGERI'S PRE-CLOVIS AND CLOVIS WORLD (michael ruggeri)
   2. Mummy of girl sacrificed by Incans prompts gasps (Webmaster)
   3. Properties of the color blue (Lorna Huff)
   4. Maya blue, etc. (Bunny)
   5. Fith Sun (lahunik.62 at skynet.be)
   6. Henry Avila's problem (lahunik.62 at skynet.be)
   7. Re: Mummy of girl sacrificed by Incans prompts gasps
      (Grace Sullivan)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 12:20:43 -0500
From: michael ruggeri <michaelruggeri at mac.com>
Subject: [Aztlan] MIKE RUGGERI'S PRE-CLOVIS AND CLOVIS WORLD
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Listeros,

A new web page for your perusal;

Mike Ruggeri's Pre-Clovis and Clovis World
http://tinyurl.com/2m8725

Mike Ruggeri's The Ancient Americas Blog
http://web.mac.com/michaelruggeri

Mike Ruggeri's Casas Grandes and Turquoise Road
http://tinyurl.com/3bbhdf

Mike Ruggeri's The Olmec World
http://tinyurl.com/2nknjf

Mike Ruggeri's Teotihuacan; City of the Gods
http://tinyurl.com/2nrs9d

Mike Ruggeri's Mesoamerica after the fall of Teotihuacan
http://tinyurl.com/2xhvwk

Mike Ruggeri's Zapotec World
http://tinyurl.com/2n8ndy

Mike Ruggeri's Ancient West Mexico from the Pre-Classic to the Tarascans
http://tinyurl.com/32uo5m

Mike Ruggeri's Aztec and Toltec World
http://tinyurl.com/yqypej

Mike Ruggeri's Mississippians and Mound Builders including the Adena  
and Hopewell
http://tinyurl.com/276d8z

Mike Ruggeri's The Ancient Southwest
http://tinyurl.com/2j8whx

Mike Ruggeri's Pre-Clovis and Clovis World
http://tinyurl.com/2m8725

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 16:20:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Webmaster" <webmaster at chicanoforums.com>
Subject: [Aztlan] Mummy of girl sacrificed by Incans prompts gasps
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/09/08/mummy.maiden.ap/index.html

Wow!

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 01:32:00 +0000
From: "Lorna Huff" <meridamex at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Aztlan] Properties of the color blue
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Hello all,

Webster's has a great definition for the color blue describing it as ' 
...the hue of that portion of the spectrum lying between green and
violet... 
one of the psychological primary hues, evoked in the normal observer by 
radiant energy wave- length of approximately 475 nanometers'. (Green is 
evoked by wave-length of  approximately 530 nanometers, yellow is 580 
nanometers, and red falls in the long- wavelength end of the spectrum).

It's interesting to consider the actual physical properties of 'blue'
since 
it appears to have been a popular color in ancient Mesoamerica, such as
with 
'Maya blue' pigment being highly coveted by the Aztecs, as noted by
Susan 
Milbrath and others.  It appears there are many aspects to why this was
so, 
one of which might be that 'Maya blue' was extremely resistant against 
chemical aggression as shown in the studies of M. Sanchez Del Roi, et
al..

Thinking along the lines (without a hard-fast theory in mind) of how
light 
wavelength has a psychological affect on the observer... It is common 
knowledge that human emotion and behavior are influenced by colors.
'Cool' 
tones such as blue and green have been shown to have a calming affect,
while 
'warm' hues like red and yellow have a subtle stimulating affect on the 
brain.  This might be related to the length of the light energy waves 
absorbed through our visual sense, and is applicable to ancient and
modern 
human perceptual experience.

Just a few thoughts others might care to reflect or elaborate on,

Lorna

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 23:38:58 -0800
From: "Bunny" <bunny5 at mindspring.com>
Subject: [Aztlan] Maya blue, etc.
To: "Aztlan" <Aztlan at lists.famsi.org>
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Forgive me if some of this has already appeared, but I have read only a
few of the postings in this discussion.  Listeros who don't already know
about it might be interested in a pair of articles on the subject of
so-called "Seri blue," a bright blue pigment used by Seri Indian women
of the northern Sonoran coast as face paint.  It is made by mixing the
root bark of Franseria dumosa, the sap of Guaiacum coulteri, and a clay
in which layers of montmorillonitic layers predominate.  Experimentation
has shown different shades of blue can further be achieved by mixing the
resin from Guaiacum coulteri and water with such clays as bentonite,
kaolinite, halloysite, and attapulgite.  
    These articles are by Mary Beck Moser, "Seri Blue," and "Seri Blue
-- An Explanation," both published in the Kiva, the quarterly journal of
the Arizona Archaeological and Historical Society, Vol. 30, no. 2
(December, 1964), pp. 27-32 and 33-39.
    No doubt someone has already pointed out that many American Indian
groups lack separate glosses for "blue" and "green," lumping them
together under one label and distinguishing shades by adding modifiers
(e.g., "like the sky" or "like the leaves on the trees").
    Bunny Fontana

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 11:38:25 +0200
From: <lahunik.62 at skynet.be>
Subject: [Aztlan] Fith Sun
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We are living now in the 5th Sun, or Nahui Ollin, or 4 Movement.

This 5th Sun is created in Teotihuacan.

The Sun and the population of the earth had been generated five times.

Humankind having been made in this 5th and last creation.

The five Suns are in connection with the bundles of 52 years, the cycles
of
52yearsX100, the  5 cycles of 5200 years, or 26000 years, or a full
precession cycle.

The cycle is shown in the Aztec Sundisk and in the Codex Rios from
Tenochtitlan.

The correlation with the Gregorian calendar is due to Alfonso Casa (Los
Calendarion Prehispanic, Mexico, Unam 1967).

An anchor for this correlation is the recorded date of August 13 1521
A.D,
the fall of the city of Tenochtitlan.

Nahui Ollin, 4 Movement or 3113 B.C.  

Lahun Ik 62

Baert Georges

Flanders Fields

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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 11:40:16 +0200
From: <lahunik.62 at skynet.be>
Subject: [Aztlan] Henry Avila's problem
To: "Aztlan" <aztlan at lists.famsi.org>
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12.19.14.11.8 9Lamat 16Mol

Tzolkin48

Different meanings of Ek: 

Ek' (ek'/EK')(T510)

1.n."star".

2.n."Venus"

3.the complete "star" glyph.

Ek' (ek'/EK')(T89)

1.adj. "black

Baert Georges

Flanders Fields

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 12:47:41 -0400
From: "Grace Sullivan" <sullivangracek at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Aztlan] Mummy of girl sacrificed by Incans prompts gasps
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I have to agree with the gasps and the comment from the article that
this exhibit is a great mistake. I think it is the most recent and
serious desecration of the sacred that I have heard.

-Grace Sullivan

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> Wow!
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