[Aztlan] Chichen Itza water sources
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vanjayal at yahoo.com
Fri Feb 1 12:48:38 CST 2008
A couple of picayune corrections to Bruce Rogers' post about
the cenotes of Chichén Itzá: Edward Thompson dredged the Cenote Sagrado from
1904 to 1910, not 1907. There were three so-called SCUBA expeditions, not two,
but the most famous were the latter two that Bruce referred to, in 1961-2 and
1967-8 (not 1971). Both expeditions relied as much on an airlift as divers to recover artifacts. The latter expedition was not organized by Donald Ediger
(who did write a book about it), but by three men: Pablo Bush Romero (Mexican
Ford dealer and founder of CEDAM, who sparked the project and lobbied the
Mexican government), Kirk Johnson (who put up most of the money) and Norman
Scott (who handled all the logistics and execution of the airlift and divers). INAH supervised the expedition.
While chlorination was used to clear the water in that last
expedition, I don’t know what the source is that says the Cenote Sagrado has
not recovered. More importantly, recovered to what? I'm not aware of baseline studies before the expedition or of studies conducted in the almost 40 years since.
Finally, I'm not certain one can make the assertion that the expeditions in the 1960s were more successful than Thompson's dredging. I suppose it depends upon the definition of success.
Thompson and his dredge recovered more material and more diverse artifacts than
the later expeditions. Of course, he operated his dredge over several years,
while the later expeditions only had a matter of weeks to complete their work
-- EJ Albright
----- Original Message ----
From: Bruce Rogers <bwrogers at dslextreme.com>
To: aztlan at lists.famsi.org
Sent: Friday, February 1, 2008 5:15:29 AM
Subject: [Aztlan] Chichen Itza water sources
Listeros,
Yes,
as
Mary
Hopkins
pointed
out,
Cenote
Sacrado
is
not
Chichen
Itza's
domestic
water
supply.
Approximately
a
kilometer
to
the
south
is
Cenote
Xtoloc,
also
known
as
the
Grand
Cenote,
that
was
the
main
domestic
water
supply.
There
are
also
at
least
9
other
cenotes
known
within
a
kilometer
or
two
of
Chichen
Itza.
The
"DPW"
Cenote
-
Cenote
Xtoloc
The
Cenote
Xtoloc
is
about
30
m
in
diameter
at
the
water
line
and
about
20
m
deep
from
the
general
ground
surface
to
the
waterline.
Its
walls
are
both
steep
with
vegetation
and
soil
cover
(the
east
and
south
walls)
and
nearly
vertical
bare
limestone
(north
and
west
walls).
The
large
pool
covering
the
floor
of
the
cenote
has
a
large
algae
mat
growing
on
its
west
side,
but
no
larger
aquatic
plants
grow
in
the
pool.
In
1936,
F.G.
Hall
and
others
reported
the
pool
was
about
15.4
m
deep
with
a
silty
bottom.
The
water
temperature
during
Hall's
visit
was
recorded
to
be
27.3
degrees
C
at
the
surface
and
21.9
degrees
C
at
the
bottom
of
the
pool.
The
pH
averaged
7.4
at
the
bottom
(near
neutral)
and
8.6
at
the
pools
surface
(somewhat
alkaline
due
to
dissolved
limestone).
The
cenotes
pool
surface
represents
a
"stand
pipe"
in
the
local
ground
water
table.
Flow
across
the
cenote
was
estimated
to
be
about
1-2
m
a
year,
about
normal
for
some
interior
karst
areas
such
as
the
Florida
Peninsula,
but
extremely
slow
compared
with
David
Hixson's
coastal
site
of
Chunchumil
and
the
more
interior
site
of
Dzibilchaltun.
A
rich
fauna
was
collected
from
the
pool
by
James
Reddell
in
1973
and
included
aquatic
invertebrates
and
terrestrial
and
flying
insects,
2
species
of
fish,
amphibians,
and
small
rodents.
A
trail
spirals
down
from
the
northeast
corner
to
the
south
wall;
this
trail
was
used
to
provide
access
to
the
pool's
surface
to
collect
water.
About
5
m
above
the
pool
is
a
small
cave
in
the
south
wall
of
the
cenote.
Cueva
del
Cenote
Xtoloc
is
about
90
m
long
and
consists
of
a
single
passage
that
has
been
enlarged
by
human
activity.
The
dry
and
dusty
passage
is
about
2-4
m
high
(except
a
small
area
of
collapsed
blocks
several
dozen
meters
inside
the
entrance)
and
has
a
heavily
coating
of
soot
in
its
ceiling
from
long
term
use
by
torch-bearing
visitors.
The
fauna
of
this
cave
is
typical
of
dry
caves
in
the
region
with
assorted
invertebrates
(including
Tohila
atelomna,
a
blind
cricket)
and
a
small
colony
of
Common
Vampire
Bats
(Desmodus
rotundus
murinus).
The
cave
is
amazingly
dry
and
the
bat's
waste
products
do
not
enter
the
surface
runoff
into
the
cenote.
It
appears
that
the
Maya
used
this
cenote
for
domestic
water
since
it
was
accessible
and
apparently
the
water
was
clean
at
the
time
of
major
use
of
the
site
by
the
Maya
over
the
last
2700
years
as
it
is
today.
The
Sacred
Cenote
-
Cenote
Sacrado
The
somewhat
oval
Cenote
Sacrado
measures
about
56
m
by
65
m
and
its
depth
varies
between
20
and
25
m,
depending
on
yearly
rainfall.
The
pool
at
its
base
is
about
12
m
deep
and
the
bottom
is
covered
with
a
10
to
20
m
thick
carpet
of
detritus.
The
walls
of
the
cenote
are
essentially
vertical
with
horizontal
solution
pockets
scattered
at
various
depths
and
an
irregular,
undercut
notch
along
the
north
and
west
sides
of
the
pool
at
the
water
line.
A
fairly
extensive
algae
mat
covers
much
of
the
pool's
surface
as
Sam
Edgerton
remarked.
Water
temperatures
are
similar
to
those
at
Cenote
Xtoloc,
but
the
water
chemistry
is
somewhat
more
alkaline
due
to
the
bat
guano
that
constantly
rains
down
into
the
pool
as
mentioned
by
Mary
Hopkins.
The
first
successful
recovery
of
artifacts
was
by
Edward
H.
Thompson
between
1904
and
1907
using
a
dredge.
Several
SCUBA
expeditions
between
1961
and
1970
have
had
more
success.
The
1971
expedition
by
Ediger
brought
in
a
large
chlorination
plant
built
by
Clorox
to
clear
the
water.
While
this
did
help
the
visibility
for
the
divers,
it
also
killed
off
much
the
indigenous
aquatic
life
in
the
cenote;
the
cenote
has
never
recovered.
No
systematic
study
has
been
made
of
the
cenote,
but
sampling
of
the
cenote
in
1973
revealed
only
2
species
of
fish,
turtles,
frogs,
and
American
Black
vultures
(Coragyps
atratus).
Drains
and
Chultuns?
The
area
surrounded
by
the
Thousand
Columns
Group
in
the
eastern
restored
section
of
the
site
has
several
sub-floor
drains.
These
might
lead
to
water
storage
chultuns,
but
not
having
knowledge
of
the
layout
of
this
unexcavated
part
of
the
site,
this
is
speculation
on
my
part.
Cheers,
Bruce
Rogers,
earth
scientist
&
speleologist
on
a
good
day
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