[Aztlan] E-groups and Sun Dogs

[D. M. Urquidi]

Folks:

Granted that "sun dogs" probably could never exist in Maya lands. However, the Paris Codex was mentioned and when I checked it out, what I found was a strange sun. . . .on Page 21 there is a "sun hanging down from a planet band. . . but encompassing two sets of planets broken by a chain of some sort.The next page is all darkened (a brown background) with  a green rope and an arched planetary band. The sun here has four serpent heads in  the four "corners" of its surrounding glow. 
In the Nuttall p. 4 has a smoking sun with four light rays and one star in each corner,  p 9 has a sun in a tree with four star forms in the same places. again on page 12 as a V"venus sky band enclosure, and the Staff of authority next to it, on page 15 the four extras seem to be splitting up.

True, in the Nuttall, these items are just "name" glyphs (of what? gods who were "born" when such an event occurred???)

Dea
D. M. Urquidi
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Austin, Texas 78765
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----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Finley <mjfinley at shaw.ca>
To: deamayaspin at yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:22:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Aztlan] E-groups and Sun Dogs

D. M. Urquidi wrote:

>Listeros:
>  
>  Bob Hall wrote some interesting things about Nadir, but if it was not a thing that could be clearly identified,is it a modern astronomer's concept?
>
Observation of events opposite the sun, such as a constellation at 
zenith when the sun is at nadir, are actually fairly common in 
pre-modern astronomy.  Knowledge of  some system of "zodiacal"  
constellations  would be a practical tool.  In fact, I believe that 
Victoria Bricker has argued that the Maya "zodiac" in the Paris Codex  
actually  marks constellations opposite the sun (thus visible at night) 
rather than constellations in which the sun stands (which cannot be 
directly observed).

As for sun dogs, I don't want to beat a dead horse,  but I can't help 
noting that up here in Saskatchewan they are common sights on crisp, 
bright and very cold winter days. Because they literally  "dog the 
Sun,"  it's tempting to wonder if they might have had Venus associations 
in Mesoamerica,  but  I fear the available evidence  is just too thin 
--- way to thin --- to make this (or any other notion about sun dogs in 
Maya astronomy) a speculation fit for circulation beyond  the chatty 
confines of this list.  Too bad, really.

Michael Finley


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