[Aztlan] Chac The Rain God

[Bertrand Lobjois]

Good evening, Mr Kerrr.

A dictionnary doesn't lie... You're right when you say that Baudez is
playing with words. maybe for a good reason.


One of Baudez's clues is that we can't any building made for one particular
god. He notably "kills" the interpretation of the so-called Chaac masks in
teratomorphs temples. To him, they are representations of the Terrestrial
Monster, a supernatural creature, not a god.

But considering the Feathered Serpent in Teotihuacan in the same period,
would you consider it as a god ?

I quote another phrase of his article : "Jamas se ha encontrado alguna
estatua de piedra o de ceramica dedicada a un ser sobrenatural"...

What would you mind ? I will be very pleased

Justin, may I ask you something about the Feathered Serpent in Maya Ceramics
? Is it representated or not ? I've seen some ceramics with serpents designs
but I'm convinced they are feathered serpents.

Thank you for your patience... ;)

Bertrand LOBJOIS
Universidad de Monterrey

2008/1/1, Justin Kerr <mayavase en verizon.net>:
>
> Dear Friends,
> I am afraid Claude is playing with words. Below is the entry from the
> Merriam-Webster dictionary
> Main Entry:deity
> Pronunciation:*d*-*-t*, *d*-
> Function:noun
> Inflected Form:plural -ties
> Etymology:Middle English deitee, from Old French deit*, from Late Latin
> deitat-, deitas, from Latin deus god; akin to Old English T*w, god of war,
> Latin divus god, dies day, Greek dios heavenly, Sanskrit deva heavenly,
> god
> Date:14th century
>
> 1 a : the rank or essential nature of a god : DIVINITY  b capitalized   :
> GOD 1, SUPREME BEING
> 2 : a god or goddess *the deities of ancient Greece*
> 3 : one exalted or revered as supremely good or powerful
> Justin
>
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> To: mario malo
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> Subject: Re: [Aztlan] Chac The Rain God
>
> About Maya gods, have a look on Claude Baudez's publication in the
> last Arqueologia
> Mexicana edition. According to him, the Mayas didn't have gods but deities
> or divine creatures...
>
> Bertrand LOBJOIS
> Universidad de Monterrey
>
> 2007/12/26, mario malo <troycabo en yahoo.com>:
> >
> > Listeros,  Chac: The Rain God,   A Visually striking, Suspenseful,
> > Hypnotic film! I found this DVD film at my Library in Sacramento, Ca.,
> The
> > caption reads:  A cult film from the 1970s, lost for years and now newly
> > restored, Chac: The Rain God is based on the ritual and legends from the
> > Popul Vuh, as well as Tzeltal and Mayan stories. This gorgeous film,
> shot
> in
> > the Chiapas region of Mexico by Chilean director Rolando Klein, focuses
> on
> a
> > small Tzeltal village during a terrible drought. Desperate for relief,
> > thirteen men set out on a quest to save their people from starvation.
> They
> > seek a solitary Diviner who lives in the mountains and knows the ways of
> the
> > Ancients; they hope that he can summon Chac, the Rain God. The Diviner
> takes
> > them far from their own land on a strange journey - a trek that
> challenges
> > their beliefs and even their own sanity.  A wonderful film,   Mario F.
> Malo
> >
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