[Aztlan] POSSIBLE CONFUSION OVER TEOTIHUACAN TUNNELS OR CAVES

John B. Carlson Tlaloc at umd.edu
Wed Jul 9 00:29:22 CDT 2008


Hello Mike,

I think there is still a lot of misinformation out there regarding 
the "cave" or "tunnel" beneath the Pyramid of the Sun. I believe the 
confusion persists. Perhaps you or someone (Kim?)  could cite the 
relevant publications or notices that clarify this situation 
regarding TWO caves or tunnels. The one that I know about, and have 
been inside of, was found in modern times, around 1970, I believe. (I 
haven't checked my notes, but I believe the exact date of discovery 
is not precisely known... at least it is not in print.) It was first 
described by my friend and colleague, the late Doris Heyden. The 
"cave" had been entered and looted in ancient times, including 
"explorations" by the "Aztecs", as well as in the 20th century. In my 
mind there is still a question as to what aspects of this "cave" were 
natural and what parts were modified by the Teotihuacanos, because it 
clearly had been heavily worked. It has never been properly studied 
with full archaeological investigations and reports and the results 
of the current project(s) will be most welcome. There are several 
hypotheses that have been proposed as to the function of this cave 
and new results will help to test them, I am sure.

Yes, there are 20th-century archaeological tunnels in the pyramid, 
but I am not sure that the details of the several projects -- in 
progress now -- have been sorted out yet by what has been said. I 
hope someone who knows can clarify this.

And Mike... thanks for all of your great reporting for the AZTLAN 
list. What you do is greatly appreciated,

John Carlson



At 7:31 PM -0500 7/8/08, michael ruggeri wrote:
>Listeros,
>
>The recent exchanges about the Teotihuacan tunnel below the Pyramid 
>of the Sun created some understandable confusion. There are two 
>tunnels in question. One is the 330 foot lava tube below the pyramid 
>which has always been open for investigation. Even as we speak, there 
>is a muon detector in place in that cave trying to ascertain whether 
>there might be other hidden chambers within the pyramid. They were 
>having trouble with the equipment and there has not been a report on 
>the findings yet.
>
>And then there is another tunnel below the pyramid which is 200 feet 
>long which Kim has told us is man made and which is now opened after 
>30 years and is being investigated.
>
>These are two different tunnels in question.
>
>Kim may be able to give us further info on the muon detector experiment.
>
>Mike Ruggeri
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