[Aztlan] Aztlan Digest, Vol 32, Issue 27

Sun Jul 27 14:03:36 CDT 2008

In Belizean Creole, 'tiger cat' refers to the margay. But I am not certain 
that it would not also apply--at least in some peoples' understanding--to 
the ocelot.
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>   1. "Tiger Cat" (Meryl Green)
>   2. Re: "Tiger Cat" (Jules Siegel)
>   3. Re: "Tiger Cat" (Jules Siegel)
>   4. Re: "Tiger Cat" (David Hixson)
>   5. Re: "Tiger Cat" (Jaime Andres Pretell)
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> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:26:55 -0400
> From: Meryl Green <zoo_newt at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Aztlan] "Tiger Cat"
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> Hi all,
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> I'm researching cats in South/Central America and I came across a 
> reference to a "tiger cat" (aka "jaguarita"?).  Most articles I've read 
> thus far at least give an old scientific name (or at least a common name 
> I've heard of), but this one does not.
>
> The statement in question (referring to a headdress of cat claws, similar 
> to a larger one of jaguar claws referred to in the same paragraph) is:
>
> "Mr. Fri? also brought home a type hitherto unknown, of much smaller 
> circumference and having the claws of the tiger cat, jaguarita, instead." 
> (p393)
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> (Fri?, Vojt?ch and Paul Radin. 1906. Contribution to the study of the 
> Bororo Indians (With a description of an ethnographic collection presented 
> to the Berlin Museum fur Volkerunde).  The Journal of the Anthropological 
> Institute of Great Britain and Ireland 36:382-406.)
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> A little searching turned up that oncillas (Leopardus tigrinus) are also 
> known as tiger cats, but I'm not positive this is what the authors were 
> referring to since this is the first time I've come across the term in 
> this type of literature.  The range of the oncilla does match the location 
> of the Bororo.  Can anyone say yea or nay?
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> Thanks,
> Meryl Green
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> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:12:40 -0500
> From: Jules Siegel <jules at cafecancun.com>
> Subject: Re: [Aztlan] "Tiger Cat"
> To: Meryl Green <zoo_newt at hotmail.com>
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> Meryl Green wrote:
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> > "Mr. Fric( also brought home a type hitherto unknown, of much smaller
> circumference and having the claws of the tiger cat, jaguarita,
> instead." (p393)
>
> Maybe it was a margay, Felis (Leopardus) wiedi Schinz: "Sometimes called
> the long-tailed spotted cat, the name margay is an anglicised version of
> ?marguey? which translates as ?tiger cat?. It is also referred to as the
> little or tree ocelot." http://members.aol.com/cattrust/margay.htm
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> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:29:32 -0500
> From: Jules Siegel <jules at cafecancun.com>
> Subject: Re: [Aztlan] "Tiger Cat"
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> [That was a mess, so let's try this again --JS]
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> Meryl Green wrote:
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> > "Mr. Fric( also brought home a type hitherto unknown, of much smaller
> circumference and having the claws of the tiger cat, jaguarita,
> instead." (p393)
>
> Maybe it was a margay, Felis (Leopardus) wiedi Schinz: "Sometimes called
> the long-tailed spotted cat, the name margay is an anglicised version of
> ?marguey? which translates as ?tiger cat?. It is also referred to as the
> little or tree ocelot." http://members.aol.com/cattrust/margay.htm
>
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> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 07:31:25 -0700 (PDT)
> From: David Hixson <chunchucmil at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Aztlan] "Tiger Cat"
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> For those who received Jules' email encoded...
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> "Jules Siegel" <jules at cafecancun.com> wrote:
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> Maybe it was a margay, Felis (Leopardus) wiedi Schinz: "Sometimes called 
> the long-tailed spotted cat, the name margay is an anglicised version of 
> "marguey" which translates as "tiger cat".  It is also referred to as the 
> little or tree ocelot." http://members.aol.com/cattrust/margay.htm
>
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> [Additional note from David Hixson: I would concur with Jules that this 
> may be Felis wiedii, known affectionately in Yucatan as a "tigrillo".]
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> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:05:10 -0400
> From: Jaime Andres Pretell <jaime_pretell at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Aztlan] "Tiger Cat"
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> The names have been used interchangeably
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>>> From: chunchucmil at yahoo.com
>>> For those who received Jules' email encoded...
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>>> "Jules Siegel"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe it was a margay, Felis (Leopardus) wiedi Schinz: "Sometimes called 
>>> the long-tailed spotted cat, the name margay is an anglicised version of 
>>> "marguey" which translates as "tiger cat".  It is also referred to as 
>>> the little or tree ocelot." http://members.aol.com/cattrust/margay.htm
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------
>>>
>>> [Additional note from David Hixson: I would concur with Jules that this 
>>> may be Felis wiedii, known affectionately in Yucatan as a "tigrillo".]
>
> I grew up in Peru and lived some time in Pucalpa, in the Amazon and I had 
> a pet tigrillo named Reyna. She was definitely an ocelot (leopardus 
> pardalis). Tigrillo is also used by many places for the oncilla (probably 
> meaning little ocelot?) or tiger vat (leopardus tigrinus). But it would 
> not surprise me at all that margay or tree ocelot (leopardus weidi) was 
> also refered to as tigrillo. Margay actually comes from Portuguese margaia 
> which comes from Tupi-Guarani mbaragaya which just means forest cat. There 
> are no tigers in the Americas so it couldn't translate into tiger cat. 
> Tiger cat is probably derived from tigrillo.
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