[Aztlan] 819day Calendar
Jorge Pérez de Lara Elías
jorgepl at estudioelias.com
Thu Jun 19 09:17:43 CDT 2008
Georges,
I hope I am not misunderstanding your posting. I would like to make a
few comments to it:
1. There is no such thing as an 819-day calendar as a free-standing
way of reckoning time. Its appearances are, as far as I know, always
associated with Long Count Initial Series on inscriptions. It is not
common, although its appearances are not so infrequent as to be called
rare. Some examples of it can be found in Palenque and Yaxchilan, but
other sites also used it on occasion. It is used, most probably, as a
further way of anchoring the highlighted date in yet one more time-
reckoning cycle (that is, in addition to the Long Count itself, the
moon cycle and the so-called Lords of the Night 9-day cycle).
2. As far as I know, nobody can say it was based upon the numbers 7, 9
and 13 although it is true that the multiplication of these three
factors do produce 819. However, this is hardly evidence firm enough
to assert this is its basis. Until additional evidence is found that
supports this, it is merely of curious anecdotal value.
3. I am not familiar with Mary Miller's quote, but it is a never-
ending cycle in that the system can go on uninterrupted for as long as
anyone cares to keep reckoning its passage. In that very sense, it may
be said it had no beginning, but then we enter a completely different
debate regarding the nature of time itself. Its formal beginning
occurred when somebody came up with it.
4. Given its interval, it always falls on a dayname with a coefficient
of 1.
5. The 819-day station given in association with any Long Count can
refer to either the next date on which the cycle will be completed or
(more frequently) the date upon which the previous station was
completed prior to the actual Long Count date.
6. I am not sure what you mean when you say "Mary Miller (says) only a
few of these callendars still exist". As a I understand it, the
calendar does not "exist" as something tangible of which only a few
examples have survived. Rather, I would say maybe she meant that it is
a relatively rare way of keeping track of time, as compared to the
myriad examples of Long Count dates, Calendar Round dates, Moon Age
dates and so-called Lord of the Night cycle dates.
7. In association to the previous observation and to answer your
question as to where you could get such a calendar, my answer would be
that you can't. You can learn how to reckon the proper dates and keep
track of them, supplying the relevant station for any date you wanted
but, as far as I know, the calendar is not available as such. There
are a few calendar converters that do incorporate reckoning of this
relatively rare calendar stations, though. You might want to look
around, to see whether you like one that does.
Hope the above is useful,
Jorge
On Jun 18, 2008, at 5:59 PM, <lahunik.62 at skynet.be> wrote:
> 819 day Calendar.
>
> The 819day Calendar was based upon the numbers 7, 9 and 13.
>
> Multiplied they yield 819.
>
> This calendar has 4 different stations, each associated with one of
> the 4
> cardinal directions and its associated color, from Yellow South, to
> Black
> West, White North and Red East.
>
> According to Mary Miller this should be a never-ending cycle with no
> beginning.
>
> But in fact this cycle moves from 1 Ahaw, backwards to 1 Kawak, to 1
> Etznab,
> etc. till 1 Imix, always with a distance number of 0.0.2.4.19.
>
> This 819day Calendar began in fact on the 15 November 3121 BC., with
> Station
> 0, 1 Ahaw 18 Kumk'u, Yellow South.
>
> According to Mary Miller only a few of this calendars still exist.
>
> Has anyone any idea where I could such a calendar?
>
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>
> Baert Georges
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