[Aztlan] 819day Count

[ECOLING at aol.com]

Here is the logical error in the postings by Baert Georges.
I am being direct (if less than maximally tactful) in order to alert readers
to this case of wishful-thinking, attempting to argue for what one wants
to believe (?) regardless of facts.   Sometimes it simply has to be said,
if we are going to be honest with ourselves.

If the Maya inserted a reference to an 819-day-count station into historical 
texts,
or into a calendar which contained many other things and was not primarily
about and 819-day-count system, as is indeed attested,
then it *DOES NOT FOLLOW* that they must have recorded it into any
sort of 819-day-count codex or book (in other words, a document
which was primarily about the 819-day count and had the physical form of
a codex or calendar book, 
so could reasonably be called an "819-day-count calendar"
in either the abstract sense or the sense of a physical book.
That they could calculate the stations in no way implies the existence
of any calendar which one could reasonably call that.

There is nothing whatsoever in the paragraph on the 819-day count
(the page 53 reference which Baert Georges cites) which would justify
the misquote of her (and preumably of co-author Taube) 
in the message which began this thread.

As others have also said, there is nothing to argue that the 819-day count
was *based on* (that invites the inference "originated from") the
multiplication of the numbers 7, 9, and 13.   We still do not know what
the basis was for the origin of the 819-day count.   Interesting hypotheses
have been proposed.

Best wishes,
Lloyd

Lloyd Anderson
Ecological Linguistics
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<< For those who are interested, my citations of Mary Miller, comes from her
book:"The Gods and Symbols of Ancient Mexico and the Maya", page 53, 819day
Count.

Like she, I know that the "819day Count" was inserted as a separate clause
in the Supplementaries Series. But if the Maya have inserted such a
"counting", than they must have recorded it into a sort of "Codex" or
"Calendar Book". Such a "counting" was not written in the heavenly Sun Sky
of the Day nor in a dark corner of the Xibalba night.

My simple question was, and I don't know why some people were so irritated
about it: "Has anyone seen such a "Codex"?>>




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