[Aztlan] The Peopling of the Americas; a reply

[vgray (gotsky)]

To Mike Ruggeri and others

I recall some information concerning a large negro component amongst the 
Olmec, approaching as much as 30% of the population in some instances. Again 
the evidence here was purportedly genetic, but I did not pursue in any 
detail the validity of these claims. Has this since been discredited?

Cheers Cliff



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "michael ruggeri" <michaelruggeri at mac.com>
To: <aztlan at lists.famsi.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 10:24 PM
Subject: [Aztlan] The Peopling of the Americas; a reply


> Listeros,
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> I have been posting articles on the new finds regarding the peopling
> of the Americas on my Pre-Clovis web sites for several years. Many of
> the studies have conflicting elements but I think one important rule
> for all of us is that without some scientific proof of any theory
> regarding the identity of the First Americans and the time of their
> arrival to the new World, it is just talk.
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> In the last couple of years, there have been great strides in
> applying genetic studies to the question and those researchers who
> have presented valid scientific work showing that most First
> Americans who arrived here descended from a small population group in
> Siberia are ahead of all others in that they can show proof of their
> claims based on real science and not speculation. The recent find
> that the First Americans may have been trapped in Beringia for 20,000
> years before they could get to Alaska due to glaciers blocking their
> way was of some interest and geneticists there showed that genetic
> mutations took place in that Beringian population that do not appear
> in Siberia or Asia and that these mutations then appear in New World
> groups throughout the Americas.
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> Within that range of scientific studies, there is room for
> speculation on the exact movement of peoples give or take 1000-2000
> years. Could the settlers of Monte Verde, for example, have reached
> that site in Chile when they did if they had not started out on their
> journey by canoe a long time before? If some small groups in Beringia
> had been able to move by canoe along the coast 2000 years earlier
> than others in Beringia who eventually were able to pass overland to
> Alaska, this may explain the Monte Verde dates.
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> Be that as it may, there are no valid genetic studies that have been
> published in the last few years showing any population other than
> Siberian ones being involved in the peopling of the Americas. And the
> latest studies in this regard have been large scale and fairly
> convincing. The linguistic study just published that shows for the
> first time a real tie between a Siberian language Ket and New World
> languages again reinforces the Siberian connection.
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> Could there have been First Americans other than the Siberian and
> Beringian ones that have been identified genetically? I have seen
> epidemiological reports regarding viruses and skull shapes that may
> indicate some tie to people living in Japan or Southeast Asia but
> they are scattered reports not followed up in any large scale manner.
> One has to keep an open mind but so far, the Siberian/Beringian
> origin story is the only one that has a large base of data behind it.
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> But this is a relatively new field of studies and we have a long way
> to go to nail down the whole story.
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> Mike Ruggeri
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