[Aztlan] DICK AND NICK; SUNFLOWER CONTROVERSY

Benjamin Carter spondylus.princeps at gmail.com
Thu May 8 21:10:39 CDT 2008


Mike,

I am not sure what you mean by your last sentence: "The story I posted 
earlier is a new article on Heiser's more recent discoveries on this 
matter which in fact proves he was right with his earlier assertion that 
sunflowers were independently cultivated in Mesoamerica without having 
learned this from further north." Having read the article (and feeling a 
little guilty about the potentially erroneous information that I passed 
on to my students as well), I don't see how Heiser's new article proves 
that sunflower was independently cultivated (do you mean domesticated?). 
Your statement seems to contradict Heiser's statement: "In summary, 
there is no convincing evidence for the sunflower in the archaeological 
record of Mexico, and the historical record provides no support for the 
domestication or pre-Columbian presence of the sunflower anywhere south 
of northern Mexico." Care to elaborate?

Ben Carter

michael ruggeri wrote:
> Dick, you do not have to worry about mis-informing your students on  
> the sunflower story. The last story posted on the sunflower  
> controversy from another listero was an article from September 2007  
> from Charles Heiser. The story I posted earlier is a new article on  
> Heiser's more recent discoveries on this matter which in fact proves  
> he was right with his earlier assertion that sunflowers were  
> independently cultivated in Mesoamerica without having learned this  
> from further north.
>
> Mike Ruggeri
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