[Aztlan] Southeastern US/Mesoamerican language contacts

[Robert Hall]

     As a matter of fact, yes. In Cheokee tradition Selu's consort was named Kanati. Kanati has no etymology in Cherokee but is usually glossed as "lucky"  or "hunter," this meaning coming from the use of Kanati's name as a verb with the meaning "he is lucky, or successful, in hunting." See James Mooney, 1982:524, "Myths of the Cherokees and Sacred Formulas of the Cherokees," reprinted from Bureau of American Ethnology Annual Reports 19 and 17. 
      The nasal m is only found in half a dozen words in two of the Cherokee dialects and is entirely absent from the third (Mooney 1982:506). This being the case, the m in a Nahuatl name such as, say, Camaxtli, would have been perceived by Cherokee ears as Kanaxtli and perhaps only as Kanati. The Cherokee hunter Kanati was the father of twin boys, by the way, as was the Maya's One Hunter. Kanati was sometimes called the Red Man, much as Camaxtli was the Red Tezcatlipoca. Bob Hall

--- On Wed, 8/26/09, Gerardo Aldana <gvaldana at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Gerardo Aldana <gvaldana at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Aztlan] Southeastern US/Mesoamerican language contacts
To: "Aztlan" <aztlan at lists.famsi.org>
Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 12:15 PM


Hi All,
I appreciate Nick's caveats concerning language borrowings, but it seems at least provocative that the warrior figure on page 48 of the Dresden Codex (in the Venus Table) is named hieroglyphically as ta-wi-si-ka-la--read by Harvey and Victoria Bricker (and others) as tawis(i)kal(a) or Tawiskal.  I wonder what else there is on Tawiskala in Cherokee in favor of or against some connection?

Saludos,
Gerardo Aldana


--- On Tue, 8/25/09, Robert Hall <robertleonardhall at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: Robert Hall <robertleonardhall at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [Aztlan] Southeastern US/Mesoamerican language contacts
To: "Aztlan" <aztlan at lists.famsi.org>
Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 7:05 PM





Listeros,
     At the 1982 Conference on Iroquoian Research in Rensselaerville, New York, Floyd Lounsbury presented a paper entitled "Tawiskala" that dealt with the near homophony of the name of the god Tawiskala in Cherokee (a southern language of the Iroquoian family) and the first part of the name of the god known in Nahuatl as Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli. Tawiskala translates as "flint, ice" and Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli was Lord of the Dawn, God of Frost, and a manifestation of Venus as Morning Star.
     Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli wore a hat with the name Itzlacoliuhqui that translates literally as "Everything-has-become-curved-because-of-obsidian" and figuratively as "Everything-has-become-wilted-because-of-coldness" (Andrews and Hassig 1984:229). Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli's (Morning Star's) arrows fell as frost. This makes relevant the fact that in the myth associated with the Skiri Pawnee Captive Maiden or Morning Star sacrifice --- a scaffold sacrifice by arrows --- Morning Star's arrows were used to kill certain corn plants that protected the victim's vulva. Frost would do that. Note that the name, Xilonen, of the Aztec Green Corn Maiden derives from the Nahuatl words xilotl 'ear of green corn' and nenetl 'female genital, doll' (Grigsby and Cook de Leonard 1992:139n7).
     Returning to Cherokee, I find it more than coincidence that the name for corn (selu) and that for the Cherokee Corn Mother (Selu) are nearly homophonic with the Nahuatl root xilo- for tender ear of green maize. To my knowledge there is no cognate word for corn in any other language of the Iroquoian family, suggesting selu was an introduction into Cherokee. If there is evidence for such a cognate in Iroquoian outside of Cherokee, I would most earnestly like to hear about it.
     Bob Hall
    
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