[Aztlan] Help needed.. Expert for Architecture of Tikal Temples Questions

[Sven Röhrig]

Hello again...
Sorry for being a bit overactiv ... I am aware of that... sorry..

To explain myself..
I am currently working on an artprojekt that as part of its conception  
overidealizes the maya a bit.
To point a bit towards western ignorance in interpretating things  
allways from theire point of view.
...
Using the freedom of art i gave the Maya a very music orientated image..
claiming that the site of Tikal was just build to enhance music...

Problem.. on the search for picture material i found strong hints that  
the fiction might be reality..
and since than i stopped the pressures work on my projekt to check  
this..
So i am a bit in the hurry to get my mind up. At least up to the point  
to decide wether this is
pure fiction or possibel reality that qualifies for long term  
investigation.


My fiction was that Tikal temples are arranged to simulate the sound  
of thunder... Earth shaking...
Pretty fantastic... and probaly not possible.. because the structure  
is massiv..
But massiv things are actually good for low freq distribution.

There are strong indikations that  the Temples have acoustical  
proppertys...

The smal inner sections of the Temple..that face each other...  looks  
like a helmholz resonator for very low frequencys or something known  
from subwoovers, known as
a Ridthaler Ripol... a pressure chamber wit two speakers facing each  
other...

But in this dimensions?... it would be for an absurd low freq range..
And a very high mechanical energy to excite such a system

All not very likely..but too much coincident to not do some  
investigations...

The Roofcombs could act as reflectors..but reflectors for what?  
Without a strong impuls there is nothing they would reflect...
exept real thunder.

Temple 5 can be seen from all other temples... could be the place for  
the keeper of the time..allowing conducting musical events that  
include all temples by visual contact ...

The idea that a maya ritual is mainly a verbal thing with a little  
music by the side might be an idea indicated by the way rituals are  
perfomed in the western world..

Maybe with native amaricans the wighting was the opposite...
maybe a little talking and a lot of music...
In this case the temple maybe would have had a musical propperty  
aswell... especial temple 1...that not really allows to do much before  
the door..
but inside or on the roof?

A big drum on top of the  whole thing? Its told that native americans  
dont know the fear of hights...

Was there holes on the very top of the construction? bolds that could  
have be used to cover them with skin?

Together with interconections between the roofcomb chambers that maybe  
could have been impressiv..

But it is told that the roof comb chambers was sealed from each other...

Problem is..that for air pressure sealed means really airtight  
seales... a brick wide hole can be enough to turn the so called sealed  
chamber into a resonator..

I want to find out if the temple could be seen as a musical instrument  
in itself..
Like the big Organ in a church,,or the Bells.. Or at least the Bell  
tower



The question is.. Are these  temples acoustic amplefiers?

And if...
Have this features surived the reconstruction..
If there are more indications for my wild theories it might help the  
reconstruction of other temples to be found by creating a higher  
sensebilty for little gaps and holes that might be acoustical features.
So i try to collect more information... Information retrival.. ;-)






Questions that would indicate the purpose as Audio amplefiers

http://tinyurl.com/d5qnv2

See this picture

It shows probaly the side of Temple 2 during reconstruction...

And it shows something that might be part of an airvent system...
There  is a holow space at the side that seems to have an access to  
the rear chamber...
When this hollow space has or had a conection to the hollow spaces in  
the roofcomb one condition for an acoustical system would have been  
fulfilled...


The small szise of the inner spaces are actually an indikator for an  
acoustical purpose..  because ther is not much else you can do with  
them..

Any info about interconnection holes..open ceilings or stone parts  
that are build from solid pieces instead of single bricks might  
indicate acoustical relevant functions.

Sofar I was checking hunderets of fotos.. It looks like that the  
temple tops had holow spaces above the front door in earlyer times.
While now it looks on the fotos like a closed ceiling inside the  
temples.

Is this original? or part of reconstruction?
http://tinyurl.com/c37m8g
The light situation avtually indicates that the rest of the temple top  
is gone in that moment...

Lintel 3 is above the third inner section and what we see is the  
backwall of the temple, or?

This picture indicates that the entire temple 2 was put into pieces..
Is that true?
http://tinyurl.com/agbfxg





So every littel construction detail should be known and documented,  
wright?
Question is just if little holes and gaps found enough atention to get  
into the reports....


How precise was such an excravation in the 1960´s done?
like today with milimeter precission or with the big brush?

The Reports might contain the necessary info... Does anybody know  
theire numbercode?
I tryed to check the berlin libarys..but i mst have typed the name  
wrong...

However ..I dont can get acces to the reports quickly and it will need  
surely some time to get thru them..

So i try this list...

My questions:

Has anybody seen something in the report that relates to the topic of  
airvents between sections of the temple construction?

Has anybody knowledge about interconecting holes between chambers or  
sections of the roof comb?

Or about such holes that was closed during reconstruction?

Have there been holes on top of the roof comb covered by big solid  
pieces of limestone?

Have there been holes in the upper platform, the one just before the  
comb, above the door ?

Is the upper platform  made from one piece? or contains a big singel  
limestone element?

In case there was such an element aor the platform is from a single  
piece Was this element free to swing? Means only connected at the  
borders to teh rest of the building without solid filling underneath...


In case the reports appear to dont be done in single brick precission...

Is anybody on the list that is in contact to people that was involved  
during the investigation and reconstruction work of Tikal in the 1960´s?

In case the reports are not detailed enough it would be great to  
contact some of these people and ask if they have realized something  
that indicates acoustical propertys that might have been overlooked.


So..ready ;-), People that might be able to feed my need for info  
might mail me privat..sorry to be so in hurry wright now..

I am sure i will enjoy this list for a longer time..It is  really  
intersting stuff that gets posted here..

I promise to behave more silent when I am thru with the initial  
investigation...

I am aware that a fiction not has to be true.. I just got currious  
because the fiction fits the site very well ;-)

The only thing i am sure of is that music played a bigger role in  
native american rituals than in our western rituals..
And we are the guys with giant church organs and house szise bells...


One last question.. In the upper right corner of this photo
http://tinyurl.com/d5qnv2
is that the raingod Chak?

The eys and beginning of the nose look a bit like..but i dont enough  
about maya gods..



thanks in advance and regards,
Sven