[Aztlan] one more popul vuh question.. regarding glyph readings

[Henry Avila]

Sven:

I have strong doubts about if postclassic maya do they still know about
glyphs writing, as a matter of fact, glyphs writing was forgotten at the
postclassic period.  And in such areas as popol vuh was created there is no
evidence (at least no much evidence) that postclassic mayas (kiches
specifically) they do know about this kind of writing.

I think the Popol Vuh was transmitted by oral tradition, when the spanish
implanted their writing system kiches have the chance to write their oral
traditions (popol vuh).

This is my point of view, based on the lack of maya writing at the
postclassic Kiches period.

By the other side, anothers scholars think that the Popol Vuh was a Codex
just like the others ones.

Regards!


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En nombre de Sven Röhrig
Enviado el: Miércoles, 18 de Febrero de 2009 10:26 a.m.
Para: aztlan en lists.famsi.org
Asunto: [Aztlan] one more popul vuh question.. regarding glyph readings

Hi there again...

sorry for more questions.. But i wonder how the original book of the popul
vuh might have looked.

Is it plausible that it was done in a similar fashion than the surriving
codicis?
As double sided pages of glyph writings, with aditional ornamental pictures?

I wonder what the szise and look this book might have had.

Is the Maya Glyph writing more dense regarding transportet information than
ours?
Or is it taking more room ?

How many Glyph blocks are usually on one page in the max? 100?



The english translation i ve read has about 63 pages in microsoft Word...

With over 3000 lines and over 34000 words.


It is said that not all parts are based on ancient records...

Someone of the list has send me a link that shows an original quiche text.
But only a part of that what is presented in the english translation i
found.

Maybe 10 pages of the 63 pgaes.

The Quiche text is ordered in around 1700 lines...

Question:

Is each line represented by just one glyph block?

So the original populvuh, if we estimate maybe 70% being of ancient orgin,
might be read out of maybe 12000 glyph blocks?

Or?

How many pages would that give in a maya codex? around 150?

So a book around 20-30 cm thick?

Is this a realistic estimation?

Are there any records about the dimensions or the general look of the
original popul vuh "Codex"?


Is there a more educated guess about the possible physical dimensions of the
original popul vuh?


I like to get an idea how glyph texts relate to ours when it comes to long
storys on paper.


Thanks again
and best regards,
Sven



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