[Aztlan] Only 50/year sacrificed at Tenochtitlan?

D. M. Urquidi deamayaspin at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 29 12:35:24 CST 2009


Folks:

Is it possible that the massive burial was not sacrifices per se, but a massive death of a community or of the land itself due to unforseen circumstances?

Dea

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--- On Thu, 1/29/09, Bertrand Lobjois <blobjois at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Bertrand Lobjois <blobjois at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Aztlan] Only 50/year sacrificed at Tenochtitlan?
> To: sierradeagua at yahoo.com
> Cc: aztlan at lists.famsi.org
> Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 9:49 AM
> The Cronicles of Sahagun or Duran explains us that some
> captives made on the
> battlefield were sacrified for the feast in each
> neighbourhood in little
> teocalli... I believe in massive sacrifices for important
> events. Maybe the
> Spaniard exagerated the number of the victims a little in
> order to favorize
> the evangelization. But look what happened in the feathered
> serpent's
> pyramid of Teotihuacan : Sugiyama's work in the
> 1980-90's showed us that
> massive sacrifices have existed from early times in
> Mesoamerican.
> 
> Bertrand LOBJOIS
> Universidad de Monterrey
> Division de Ciencias Sociales
> 
> 
> 2009/1/27 J. L. Baker <sierradeagua at yahoo.com>
> 
> >
> > Related to this discussion are two articles by Barry
> Isaac from 1983 on
> > Aztec warfare (see references below) in which he
> reviewed the accounts on
> > the number of captives taken in battle. His results,
> including the Flowery
> > War battles were that relatively few individuals were
> actually taken as
> > captives in warfare. Its been a while since I have
> read the articles, so I
> > don't recall the exact numbers any more, but I
> want to say that most battles
> > resulted in less than a 100 captives, with the larger
> numbers around 300 or
> > so captives. With clear evidence that many war
> captives were sold into
> > slavery, this substantially reduces the number of
> captives available for
> > sacrifice as well, which fits in well with the
> argument presented by Baron.
> >
> >
> > Isaac, Barry
> > 1983 Aztec Warfare: Goals and Battlefield Comportment.
> Ethnology 22:
> > 121-131.
> >
> > 1983 The Aztec "Flowery War": A Geopolitical
> Explanation. Journal of
> > Anthropological Research 39: 415-432.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jeff Baker
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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