[Aztlan] Only 50/year sacrificed at Tenochtitlan?

Mary Hopkins mhopkins at fas.harvard.edu
Thu Jan 29 13:05:23 CST 2009


It seems to me that Sugiyama's excavation found large numbers of young 
adults. Really unlikely demographic for an accident or epidemic. They were 
also bound.

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, D. M. Urquidi wrote:

> Folks:
>
> Is it possible that the massive burial was not sacrifices per se, but a massive death of a community or of the land itself due to unforseen circumstances?
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> Dea
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> --- On Thu, 1/29/09, Bertrand Lobjois <blobjois at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Bertrand Lobjois <blobjois at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Aztlan] Only 50/year sacrificed at Tenochtitlan?
>> To: sierradeagua at yahoo.com
>> Cc: aztlan at lists.famsi.org
>> Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 9:49 AM
>> The Cronicles of Sahagun or Duran explains us that some
>> captives made on the
>> battlefield were sacrified for the feast in each
>> neighbourhood in little
>> teocalli... I believe in massive sacrifices for important
>> events. Maybe the
>> Spaniard exagerated the number of the victims a little in
>> order to favorize
>> the evangelization. But look what happened in the feathered
>> serpent's
>> pyramid of Teotihuacan : Sugiyama's work in the
>> 1980-90's showed us that
>> massive sacrifices have existed from early times in
>> Mesoamerican.
>>
>> Bertrand LOBJOIS
>> Universidad de Monterrey
>> Division de Ciencias Sociales
>>
>>
>> 2009/1/27 J. L. Baker <sierradeagua at yahoo.com>
>>
>>>
>>> Related to this discussion are two articles by Barry
>> Isaac from 1983 on
>>> Aztec warfare (see references below) in which he
>> reviewed the accounts on
>>> the number of captives taken in battle. His results,
>> including the Flowery
>>> War battles were that relatively few individuals were
>> actually taken as
>>> captives in warfare. Its been a while since I have
>> read the articles, so I
>>> don't recall the exact numbers any more, but I
>> want to say that most battles
>>> resulted in less than a 100 captives, with the larger
>> numbers around 300 or
>>> so captives. With clear evidence that many war
>> captives were sold into
>>> slavery, this substantially reduces the number of
>> captives available for
>>> sacrifice as well, which fits in well with the
>> argument presented by Baron.
>>>
>>>
>>> Isaac, Barry
>>> 1983 Aztec Warfare: Goals and Battlefield Comportment.
>> Ethnology 22:
>>> 121-131.
>>>
>>> 1983 The Aztec "Flowery War": A Geopolitical
>> Explanation. Journal of
>>> Anthropological Research 39: 415-432.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jeff Baker
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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