[Aztlan] Correction to part of John Major Jenkins statement
Robert F. Wald
waldrf at earthlink.net
Tue Jul 7 19:55:25 CDT 2009
Just a brief note to add to Elaine's comment (although not a
correction to John Major Jenkins statement):
In my view of the Classic Maya Calendar, the 260 day calendar is
cyclical, the 365 day calendar is cyclical, the 584 day Venus
calendar, and the 52 year calendar (among several others) are all
cyclical. But the long count is not. All evidence from the
inscriptions indicates that the number of the Baktun cycle and cycles
above the Baktun (Pik) increase (or return to zero) as time goes on
at the end of each time period of K'ins, Winals, Haabs, etc. This is
true whether one thinks that the next Baktun number after the 13th is
14 or zero after increasing the Pictun by 1. This is analogous to
the Julian/Gregorian calendar increasing from 999 to 1000 by
increasing one place value. In sum, there is no reason to cut off
the number of cycles at the Baktun level. What is more, there is
also no apparent reason to limit the number of the time-period
designations above the Baktun cycle to those found at Yaxchilan or
Coba since they do not match each other in number either.
It is also interesting that, without equating the two calendars, the
Gregorian calendar is also composed of cycles in similar ways to the
Classic Maya calendar. As far as the cyclicity of the Maya calendar
is concerned, it seems to me that there is no evidence that the
Classic Maya believed that actual historical events themselves would
repeat just because the cycles themselves repeated. Of course,
seasons for agricultural activities and good and bad days for
activities would return -- and people involved in various activities
dependent upon those cycles would perform similar ones (but not the
self-same ones) again (similarly to what occurs in societies using
the Gregorian calendar). All this mainly becomes a problem mainly
when one assumes that the Maya as well as other colonized people
thought that actual historical events themselves repeated when those
cycles repeated. Such ideas concerning the views of non-European
indigenous peoples was more common in later 19th and earlier 20th
centuries under the influence of Hegel's ideas about
history. Unfortunately this also colored the early anthropologists'
views of those non-European cultures.
Robert Wald
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