[Aztlan] Domingo Martínez Paredez

micc2 micc2 at cox.net
Wed Jul 8 15:44:02 CDT 2009


Does the "square (representing measurement) within a compassed circle 
(representing movement)" appear at all in Maya texts or art?


Mario

I live for reasoned, enlightened spirituality:

"Tlacecelilli", tranquilidad, paz


Mario E. Aguilar, PhD
www.mexicayotl.net




Hoopes, John W wrote:
> I'm not sure of the origin of this phrase, but it appears to have become associated with the concept of "Hunab Ku" through the work of Domingo Martínez.
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> In his book Hunab Kú: Síntesis del pensamiento filosófico maya, Martínez (1964:26-27) writes:
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> "... trajo como consecuencia admirable el que el pensador maya llegase a la genial conclusión de que EL TU es mi OTRO YO, con la expresión IN LAK'ECH, ERES MI OTRO YO...  mis aspirciones so las de que algún día esta lección de nuestros antepasados mayas, sirva para conciliar al hombre con el hombre, que la humanidad reflexione y sepa decir como el filósofo maya a su prójimo: ¡IN LAK'ECH- ERES MI OTRO YO!"
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> One of the theses presented by Martínez is that the Maya symbol for Hunab Ku was a square (representing measurement) within a compassed circle (representing movement) and the relationship of this iconography to "la dinámica cósmica" through Egyptian, Hindu, Chinese, Hebrew, Assyrian, Chaldean, and ultimately Masonic iconography, where this symbol is said to represent the Great Architect of the Universe.  His focus was on understanding the mathematical nature of God as understood by the Maya.  Like his predecessor Augustus Le Plongeon, Martínez was attempting to understand the ancient Maya through the lens of Freemasonry.
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> Martínez' ideas influenced José Argüelles (whose early work was on mandalas) and have been extensively reproduced in publications by César Mena Toto (a.k.a. Hunbatz Men).  However, his work is rarely cited or appropriately credited.
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> Martínez' exposition on the etymology of Hunab Kú first appeared in 1953 as an article with the same title as his abovementioned book in Filosofía y Letras. Revista de la Facultad de Filosofía y Letras 51-52 (julio-diciembre).
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> John Hoopes
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> From: micc2 [mailto:micc2 at cox.net]
> Sent: Wed 7/8/2009 12:56 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Aztlan] Domingo Martínez Paredez
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> Speaking about Hunab Ku,
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> I have heard for the past 39 years IN Chicano art/indigenist/political
> arenas,  the phrase "In Lakech" (or some other orthographic variation)
> as being "Maya" for "you are my other self."
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> A great concept of compassion, kindness, and love.... but is it real?
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> Any thoughts on what "Mayan" language it could come from?
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> Mario
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> I live for reasoned, enlightened spirituality:
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> "Tlacecelilli", tranquilidad, paz
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> Mario E. Aguilar, PhD
> www.mexicayotl.net
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> Hoopes, John W wrote:
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>> Listeros,
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>> In researching the history of current New Age speculation about the Maya calendar and 2012, I came across several references to the work of Mexican writer Domingo Martínez Paredez.  His research includes an etymology of the name "Hunab Ku" and an analysis of the Popol Vuh.
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>> I'm curious to know more about this author.  While his work seems to fall into the realm of pseudoscience, he was exploring speculative themes long before they appeared in publications by U.S. authors.  (In fact, it was apparently he who first gave New Age references to Hunab Ku their current spin.)  Some of his books are:
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>> 1964 Hunab Ku: Síntesis del pensamiento fillósofico maya. Editorial Orion, Mexico. D.F.
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>> 1967 El idioma maya hablado y escrito. Editorial Orion, D.F.
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>> 1968 El Popol Vuh tiene razón: Teoría sobre la cosmogonia preamericana. Editorial Orion, Mexico, D.F.
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>> 1981 Parapsicología maya. Manuel Porrua, Mexico, D.F.
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>> Any information about Martínez would be helpful. 
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>> Thanks!
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