[Aztlan] 2012 and Pre-Columbian Calendars

lahunik.62 at skynet.be lahunik.62 at skynet.be
Tue Jun 30 19:14:55 CDT 2009


Lynda Manning-Schwartz

What are your certain facts?

1.	About 13.0.0.0.0.

Despite the common accepted rule, but this date is, in my opinion, not a
period ending but in fact a period beginning;

2.	About 1507.

Is indeed a year of a so called New Fire, or a Tlemiquiliztli, on January
28, 1507, 2 Acatl 7 Ocelotl 1 Izcalli. The last New Fire ceremonie however
was conducted on October 16, 1974, 2 Acatl 7 Ocelotl 1 Izcalli.

3.	About the Julian vs Gregorian vs Mesoamerican Calendar.

2012, December 21, is a Grgorian date, linked with the Mesoamerican Calendar
on the base of JDN 584283. Your statement is a little mixup of two different
calendars, the Julian and the Gregorian.

Julius Caesar established in 46BC a calendar called the Julian Calendar,
with leap years every four year. The year 45BC should be the first leap
year, and than 41, etc. but after the death of Julius Caesar everthing was
mixtup. The fault was corrected by the emperor Augustus and so in fact our
Julian Calendar really started on 7AD.

The Julian calendar is a cycle of 1461 days, 3 years of 365 days and 1 year
of 366, or an average of 365.25 days. Adding an extra day every 4 years is
too much resulting in a whole extra day every 128 years. Therefore in 1582
Pope Gregorius adopted a revised calendar. Not 3 days, but actually 10 days,
from October 5 till 14, included, were cancelled. Adjustements have been
made in the Western Calendar starting in 1582 and completed in 1919AD, which
must be accounted for when converting dates. The Western calendar has leap
year additions and other days shifts, none of which ever occurred in the
Mesoamerican Calendar. Mesoamericans consistently and accurately counted the
passage of days, while the Western World was more concerned with the passage
of years. The reason why Gregorius proclaimed a new calendar reflected his
concern of the time of Easter, not the birth nor the death of Jezus Christ.
The spring-eqiunox was no longer falling on March 21, as decided in the
Council of Nicea in 325AD, but was allready moved on to March 31. So Easter
was in fact celebrated on the wrong Sunday. Easter must be celebrated on the
first Sundy after the first full Moon of the spring-equinox.

Not only 10 days were cancelled, but also in 1582 was decided that the
Gregorian calendar from than on always should started on the first of
January.

The result of the papal decree in 1582 first affected countries that were
predominantly Catholic. They made an immediate conversion from the Julian to
the Gregorian calendar by removing 10 days. Therefore any date before this
period must be use the Julian conversion, and any date after must use the
Gregorian conversion, but only in those countries that had close ties with
the Catholic Church. Most protestant and non-Christian countries made the
conversion whenever they got around to it, including Great Britain and the
United States, which completed the transition in 1752.

One can convert the Julian dates to the Mesoamerican name-days by simply
adding the difference between the two calendars. The difference to be added
increases 1 day each century, because the Gregorian Calendar does not define
years divisible by 100 as leap year, and therefore the following difference
must be applied, from January 1, 1800 till February 29, 1800, 11 days; from
March 1, 1800 till February 29, 1900, 12 days; and from March 1, 1900, 13
days.

So wether the world will end on December 21 or on 24, 2012, is just because
of the Gregorian calendar that is used and the Juliandaynumber, the
JDN584283 or JDN584285.

And by the way AD, doesn't it mean "After the Death of Jezus Christ"? 

Lahun Ik 62

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