[Aztlan] God L's tobacco

[Barbara McKenzie]

I believe this is the delightful original of your watercolor image:

http://mayaruins.com/palenque/a1_264.html

Barbara


On Nov 8, 2009, at 3:24 PM , Jorge Pérez de Lara wrote:

> Johanne,
>
> Without seeing the actual image you are referring to, there is a
> chance I may be wrong, but from your description, the watercolor you
> bought is probably the very famous image of (yes) God L smoking a fat
> cigar, which used to be on the outer jambs of the shrine inside the
> Temple of the Cross (not the Foliated Cross). Among souvenir peddlers
> in Palenque and in the old guide literature, the image is known as "El
> Fumador" ("The Smoker"), but it is in fact one of the best depictions
> of a full-bodied God L, shown not only with his jaguar pelt cloak, but
> also with his characteristic hat, fringed with the characteristic
> black-on-white feathers (and even the head) of the Muan bird.
>
> Jorge
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Johanne Tournier wrote:
>
>> Hi, Karen -
>>
>> I can't comment on your idea of the practicality of cigar-smoking  
>> on a
>> journey; I'll leave that to other experts. But - a few years ago I
>> bought a
>> modern watercolor on bark paper of a god smoking a cigar - I think I
>> got it
>> in the Popul Vuh Museum in Guatemala City, but it says it's from the
>> Temple
>> of the Foliated Cross; that would be Palenque of course. I
>> understood it to
>> depict Itzamna. He is wearing an elaborate headdress and has a cloak
>> made of
>> jaguar-skin. So my question of course is - does the fact that he's
>> smoking
>> mean that it must be God L? Was Itzamna also sometimes depicted  
>> with a
>> cigar?
>>
>> I could scan the painting and send it to you if it would be helpful.
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Johanne
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