[Aztlan] Aztlan Digest, Vol 46, Issue 15

[Mark C]

Listeros:
I sent a .jpg of the large stone serpent head from Izapa which I took in 1995 to Bertrans directly. Since Aztlan cannot accept images, if anyone else is interested, please let me know and I will send it directly to you.
Yours,
Mark Cheney









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From: mexiqueancien at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Aztlan] Aztlan Digest, Vol 45, Issue 22
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 01:24:05 +0200
To: dustmop at hotmail.com; aztlan at lists.famsi.org

Well, Marc...
 
I never seen these feathered serpent's heads you mention... Could you send  
me any link or picture to have a look on them and give you my opinion  
after, please ?
 
Bertrand LOBJOIS
 
Le Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:16:19 +0200, Mark C <dustmop at hotmail.com> a écrit:
 
  Bertrand LOBJOIS
Universidad de Monterrey, Mexico.
Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Sorbonne, Paris.
  http://mexiqueancien.blogspot.com
 
 
> I have seen large stone images of the feathered serpent at the ancient 
> site of Izapa, as well as Teotihuacan and Chichen Itza. That's quite a 
> spread from Teo and Chichen, and it forms a triangle that completely 
> encompasses Xochicalco. Didn't Quetzalcoatl and Kukulcan seem to 
> originate from the same entity when considering images of the feathered 
> serpent - with Quetzalcoatl coming later in time?
> Mark Cheney
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> On Aug 25, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Bertrand Lobjois wrote:
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>> Even if the archaeological context could help, I don't think it is
>> directly related with Quetzalcoatl.
>> First, because the image of postclassic Quetzalcoatl doesn't exist
>> in Xochicalco. Xochicalco is an Epiclassic town and the iconography
>> of the feathered serpent is more related with Teotihuacan or even
>> Chichen Itza.
>> According to Michel Graulich, this calendar dates could refer to
>> big change in mesoamerican calendar. It could mention the beginning
>> of a new calendar. Graulich argument is that at the Aztec time,
>> Moctezuma did the same thing for Mexico-Tenochtitlan when he changed
>> the date of the New Fire ceremony. That's why he doesn't exclude a
>> similar change for Xochicalco.
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>> Bertrand LOBJOIS
>> Universidad de Monterrey, Mexico.
>> Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes, Sorbonne, Paris.
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>> http://mexiqueancien.blogspot.com
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