[Aztlan] Tlaloc Star?

Gary Daniels Gary at lostworlds.org
Sat Feb 6 12:21:39 CST 2010


Appears the British Museum site is EXTREMELY slow loading...taking several
minutes(!!!) to load the image. Here's a TinyURL link to Yaxchilan Lintel 41
rubbing from Mesoweb:

http://tinyurl.com/yav4ro8

Here's a tiny url to the actual artifact in the British Museum (but it takes
forever and a day to load):

http://tinyurl.com/yzj9bhu

You'll also need to click on the "larger image" link to see the star design
in the headdress. (This also takes forever and a day to load.)

-Gary Daniels
http://www.LostWorlds.org


On 2/5/10 6:20 PM, "Gary Daniels" <Gary at LostWorlds.org> wrote:

> Does Tlaloc  have an association with stars (or a particular star)?
> 
> On Lintel 41 from Yachilan, the figure on the right wears a headdress which
> includes an emblem that looks like a five-pointed star. The interior of the
> star contains a circle-within-a-circle design. This headdress is referred to
> by Carolyn Tate in  her book on Yaxchilan as ³Tlaloc.² Here¹s a link to an
> image:
> 
> http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/highlight_image.aspx?image=m
> m029101.jpg&retpage199
> 
> So I started doing a little research on Tlaloc and found this very
> interesting depiction on Wikipedia:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlaloc
> 
> It appears the sculptor purposefully rendered Tlaloc¹s face as a sort of
> ³EK² glyph. The nose and eyebrows seem purposefully combined into one unit-
> which I haven¹t seen in other sculptures. Tlaloc also appeas to have rays of
> light emanating from behind his head, star-like. And in his head band is the
> circle-within-a-circle motif repeated multiple times.  I¹ve seen this same
> headband on a sculpture of Quetzalcoatl, who definitely has an association
> with a star/planet: Venus.
> 
> The article states Tlaloc was the Aztec version of the Mayan god Chac.  I¹ve
> read elsewhere that God GI is also associated with Chac. Interestingly, God
> GI is ³enthroned in the sky² at the beginning of the Mayan Flood Myth and
> Decapitation of the Cosmic Caiman. This ³enthronement in the sky² seems very
> star-like and suggests Chac (and thus Tlaloc) has an association with a
> particular star.
> 
> Is this the case? If so, do scholars know which star Tlaloc is associated
> with?
> 
> -Gary Daniels
> http://www.LostWorlds.org
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