[Aztlan] Blood For the Gods - Some basic arithmetic/ Questions

Bertrand Lobjois mexiqueancien at gmail.com
Sat Jan 9 22:48:43 CST 2010


Don't forget that the Aztec rulers were used in official history
manipulation (like Itzcoatl or Moctezuma Ilhuicamina. So it means that the
Spaniards just repeated what the Mexicas of Tenochtitlan told them...



Bertrand LOBJOIS
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Prepa UdeM y División de Ciencias Sociales
Universidad de Monterrey, NL, Mexico

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2010/1/8 David Hixson <aztlandave en yahoo.com>

> Fritz is most certainly correct.  And please note that the ethnohistoric
> literature (including dynastic records for the Aztec Empire) does not fill
> even the smallest thimble of data regarding the long-term development of
> complex society in the Basin of Mexico.  The Aztec culture did not arise out
> of hunter-gatherers and suddenly develop into a massive empire.  It built
> upon millenia of cultural development within (and outside) the basin of
> Mexico.
>
> Perhaps a review of Sanders, Santley and Parson's various publications
> (both their collaborative and independent works) would be an appropriate
> reading list for those interested in this topic.  A (relatively sad, but
> appropriate) reading list is located within the recent obituary of Bill
> Sanders.
>
> http://publishingarchaeology.blogspot.com/2008/07/william-t-sanders.html
>
> -Dave
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
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> Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 10:31:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Aztlan] Blood For the Gods - Some basic arithmetic/ Questions
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>
> Tenochtitlan [the Aztec capital] was founded in 1325, or thereabouts,
> making 200 years before the arrival of the Spanish.  The Mexica (Aztecs)
> used techniques developed by other Valley civilizations over several
> centuries prior to their arrival to expand their city and build on the
> swampy soil of the Valley.
>
> For the first 100 years they served as vassals of the more powerful state
> of Azcapotzalco, until they created an alliance with Texcoco and Tlacopan
> and threw off the domination of Azcapotzalco, about 100 years before the
> Spanish arrived
>
> So the idea that they achieved everything in barely a century is not
> really accurate.  They inserted themselves into a system of warfare,
> tribute, and dominance that was many centuries old.
>
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