[Aztlan] EK & CHAY glyphs related?

[Gary Daniels]

Are the glyphs for EK and CHAY related or did they evolve separately? CHAY
looks like an upside down version of EK. Is this the case or just a
coincidence? Does turning a Mayan glyph upside down give it a negative
association? In many cultures turning a symbol upside down has a negative
association....is it the same in Mayan?

Since EK means ³star² and CHAY means ³to be destroyed² it immediately brings
to mind the English word DISASTER. ASTER means ³star² and the prefix DIS
always creates a negative or opposite meaning to the word it precedes. (A
DIShonest person is the opposite of honest.) Thus DISASTER would literally
mean the opposite of star (or bad star) although its real meaning is very
similar to CHAY in that it relates to destruction:

disaster: a calamitous event, esp. one occurring suddenly and causing great
loss of life, damage, or hardship, as a flood

I¹ve also read in a classic Maya dictionary that CHAY means fish. How can
CHAY mean both fish and destruction?

All of this makes me think of the ³Mayan Flood Myth and the Decapitation of
the Cosmic Caiman.² The events begin with the enthronement of God GI in the
sky thus clearly associating God GI with a star. Eleven years later the
cosmic caiman is decapitated and his body thrown into the ocean causing a
flood. The cosmic caiman is a water creature....like a fish. Thus the Mayan
word CHAY meaning both fish and ³to be destroyed² now makes sense as does
its association with EK/star (if, in fact, there is an association.)

Interestingly, the third definition of CHAY is ³to set down.² Does this mean
that CHAY is also related to CHUM? Again, this brings me back to the Mayan
Flood Myth with the enthronement of God GI in the sky. Enthronement is
scripted as CHUM. Since the enthronement happened in the sky, we get an
association with star or EK. Since all of this precedes the great flood
disaster, we get an association with CHAY (to be destroyed).  Since the
flood was caused by a water creature we get another association with CHAY
(fish). Thus, at least in the Mayan Flood Myth, CHAY, EK and CHUM are
interrelated.

The other question I have about CHAY is in regards to the 18 dots beneath
it. What do these represent? They consist of two groups of dots, 5 big dots
and 4 small dots, repeated twice, once on either side of the glyph. The
petroglyph I¹m studying also has 18 dots carved into it and I can¹t come up
with a good explanation as to why.

-Gary Daniels
http://www.LostWorlds.org