[Aztlan] Cipactli and Venus

[Sid Hollander]

Karen said
"Gary,
I  would not characterize 1 Imix as the beginning of the tzolkin count."

Several questions come to mind:

   1. Why did she say that?
   2. Did she mean that "Imix is not the first day of the Tzolkin?

Is she preparing to say "12.19.0.0.0 9-Ahaw" is the:

   - Last day of the 18th Katun
   - The zero day of the Katun 19
   - The first Day of Katun 19

or is she hinting that the Maya would say "12.19.0.0.0 9-Ahaw" is the:

   - Last day of the 18th Katun
   - The zero day of the Katun 19
   - The first Day of Katun 19

Is it that my confusion is based on:

   - Just because the Maya based their LC on elapsed day is that a reason
   for us to believe/say that the Maya based all their cycles on elapsed time.
   - If a Maya had 3 bags of corn labled A, B & C in a row from left to
   right and you asked him, "How many bags of corn do you have lined up in that
   row?" would he reply, "I have 3 Bags" or would he say, " I have 2 Bags"
   - If I further asked him, "Relative to the bag  with an "A" on it, Is
   that the first in the row?" or "Is that the Zero(th) in the row?"

We today count elapsed time on our wrist watch.  When it says "1 o'clock" it
means we have finished the first hour and beginning the second hour of the
day (or week, century, Baktun etc) Just as the Maya did in their LC.  This
does not mean that future investigators should imply that when it is written
that I was born on July 1st that I was birthed on the 2nd day of the month.
If they did THEY would be wrong!

I think that 13.0.0.0.0  up to 13.0.0.0.1*   (where 1* means "a little short
of 1) is the the first day of a new era and the Maya wrote it as Day 0.   We
should not confuse how we name a thing with how we count a thing.  Counting
(cardinality) anything/everything (mathematically) begins with the number
1.
How many things in the numbered rows below?:

   1. * * *
   2. "corn" "corn" "corn"
   3. "bear"
   4.  0 0 0     (I hope the same answer as #1)
   5.  0 0
   6.  0




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