[From nobody Tue Jan 11 08:48:02 2011 Return-Path: <aztlan-bounces@lists.famsi.org> Delivered-To: schwallr@potsdam.edu Received: (qmail 4061 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2009 20:35:07 -0000 Received: from mx1.potsdam.edu (HELO smtp1.potsdam.edu) (137.143.110.103) by hermes.potsdam.edu with SMTP; 20 Feb 2009 20:35:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 7200 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2009 20:35:09 -0000 Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by smtp1.potsdam.edu with SMTP; 20 Feb 2009 20:35:09 -0000 Received: from bugz.potsdam.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bugz.potsdam.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with SMTP id 26710-39 for <schwallr@potsdam.edu>; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:35:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 7184 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2009 20:35:08 -0000 Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 20 Feb 2009 20:34:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 7181 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2009 15:35:08 -0500 Received: from www.famsi.org (72.3.223.2) by bugz.potsdam.edu with SMTP; 20 Feb 2009 15:35:08 -0500 Received: from www.famsi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.famsi.org (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n1KKPu2i009249; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:25:56 -0600 Received: from epo-int2.asu.edu (epo-int2.asu.edu [129.219.187.21]) by www.famsi.org (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n1KIFAOZ018681 for <aztlan@lists.famsi.org>; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:15:10 -0600 Received: from exhub2.asurite.ad.asu.edu (exhub2.asurite.ad.asu.edu [129.219.103.60]) by epo-int2.asu.edu (Switch-3.1.8/Switch-3.1.7/asu-postoffice-prod) with ESMTP id n1KICweL028286 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=FAIL) for <aztlan@lists.famsi.org>; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:15:06 -0700 Received: from EX06.asurite.ad.asu.edu (129.219.12.207) by exhub2.asurite.ad.asu.edu (129.219.103.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.340.0; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:15:07 -0700 Received: from EX05.asurite.ad.asu.edu ([129.219.12.204]) by EX06.asurite.ad.asu.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:15:07 -0700 Errors-To: aztlan-bounces@lists.famsi.org Date: 20 Feb 2009 11:15:07 -0700 Message-ID: <F97F402E6CF9B54EAEDC7F2AB1D719C40393848B@EX05.asurite.ad.asu.edu> From: "Michael Smith" <Michael.E.Smith.2@asu.edu> Sender: aztlan-bounces@lists.famsi.org To: aztlan@lists.famsi.org X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1235152802.15876.aztlan@lists.famsi.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Aztec terminology Thread-Index: AcmThRtibQ2k+MZDSO+m48Ca1cWoWAAAG7Aw X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Feb 2009 18:15:07.0505 (UTC) FILETIME=[29085610:01C99387] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by www.famsi.org id n1KIFAOZ018681 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:25:53 -0600 Subject: [Aztlan] Aztec terminology X-BeenThere: aztlan@lists.famsi.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A PreColumbian Discussion List <aztlan.lists.famsi.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.famsi.org/mailman/listinfo/aztlan>, <mailto:aztlan-request@lists.famsi.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.famsi.org/pipermail/aztlan> List-Post: <mailto:aztlan@lists.famsi.org> List-Help: <mailto:aztlan-request@lists.famsi.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://www.famsi.org/mailman/listinfo/aztlan>, <mailto:aztlan-request@lists.famsi.org?subject=subscribe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: SUNY Potsdam (Maia Mailguard 1.0.2a) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.75 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=AWL=-0.750, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.5 X-Spam-Level: I thank Gordon Whittaker for his clarification of some popular "Aztec" terms (and I also thank Gordon for teaching the first course I ever took on the Aztecs!). It would be nice if Gordon or someone similarly erudite in Aztec scholarship would put together a paper on some of these terms, especially the term "Aztec" itself. I am constantly criticized for my usage of the term Aztec to mean the entire Late Postclassic population of the central Mexico highlands, both Nahuatl-speaking and others such as Otomian languages. I have 3 main reasons for sticking to this usage: (1) there is no good alternate term; (2) book publishers insist in using "Aztec" in book titles to generate sales; and (3) the various peoples of Late Postclassic central Mexico shared many cultural traits, spoke or understood the same language, and they were in constant contact with one another through trade, visiting, and other means. This was a single culture, and if don't call it Aztec, what term can we use? After another round of criticism for my usage at a Presentación de Libro" for Aztec City-State Capitals last summer, I suggested that perhaps "Anahuac" could be used for my concept of Aztec culture, but it turns out this has strong political overtones (it has been proposed as a possible name for a new Mexican state should the present State of Mexico split into two parts). So I will keep with "Aztec" until something better comes along. My main answer to people who say that "Aztec" should be limited to the Mexica is that we already have a term for them (Mexica). I think that good scholarship on terminology, as outlined by Gordon's post, is important for many reasons, and I think it would be very helpful if someone were to assemble the data and interpretations and publish it in a visible place (such as Mexicon.....). Mike Dr. Michael E. Smith Professor of Anthropology School of Human Evolution & Social Change Arizona State University www.public.asu.edu/~mesmith9/ _______________________________________________ Aztlan mailing list http://www.famsi.org/mailman/listinfo/aztlan Click here to post a message Aztlan@lists.famsi.org Click to view Calendar of Events http://research.famsi.org/events/events.php ]